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How would you expect it to work? The police are not everywhere at all times. If there's a report of something, they have to investigate and try to interview wit

How would you expect it to work? The police are not everywhere at all times. If there's a report of something, they have to investigate and try to interview witnesses. If one of the witnesses has a video, why wouldn't that be evidence?

BiteCode_dev 5y ago
In my country (France), there are very specific conditions for videos to be accepted as court evidences. One of them is that if you are a private party, the video recording must have been advertised to the person on film prior to the begining of it, and must be declared to a special authority (CNIL), to avoid abuses.
- eertami 5y ago
  EU countries in general are much more privacy focused compared to the UK. UK law & culture is that you have no expectation of privacy in public, and people can take pictures/take video of you anytime you are in public, for any reason.
- tripa 5y ago
  Got a source for that? My cursory reading of https://www.dalloz-actualite.fr/chronique/reflexions-sur-l-usage-et-place-de-video-dans-proces-penal-en-france https://www.dalloz-actualite.fr/chronique/reflexions-sur-l-u... seems to only limit it for accusation by public authorities.
  - BiteCode_dev 5y ago
    https://www.eye-tech.fr/videosurveillance-constituer-preuve-judiciaire/ https://www.eye-tech.fr/videosurveillance-constituer-preuve-... "Pour assurer la fiabilité de la preuve soumise via un dispositif de vidéosurveillance, la qualité de l’image s’avère également déterminante ; plus précisément, elle doit comporter 704 x 576 pixels de résolution au moins et une cadence de 12 images par seconde et plus. L’installation d’un tel système doit être justifiée par un besoin de sécurité ou de protection (personnes, biens, locaux, mesure d’anti-terrorisme). Dans le domaine privé, les personnes concernées doivent en être avisées et vous devez déclarer le dispositif à la CNIL." "dans le domaine privé" could mean "by private party" or "on private properties", and since IANAL, I don't know which one. The first one would match my understanding, the second would mean the public street would be ok.
    - tripa 5y ago
      Thanks for the link! It's labelled «vidéosurveillance» though, it feels like it only applies to fixed permanent cameras, not smartphone or GoPro ad-hoc evidence.
      - BiteCode_dev 5y ago
        Indeed, but "vidéosurveillance" works for mobile camera if put on a guard or on the police. On a civilian? I don't know. Maybe intent matters. This is where I guess I have to ask my lawyer.

BiteCode_dev 5y ago

In my country (France), there are very specific conditions for videos to be accepted as court evidences. One of them is that if you are a private party, the video recording must have been advertised to the person on film prior to the begining of it, and must be declared to a special authority (CNIL), to avoid abuses.

eertami 5y ago
EU countries in general are much more privacy focused compared to the UK. UK law & culture is that you have no expectation of privacy in public, and people can take pictures/take video of you anytime you are in public, for any reason.
tripa 5y ago
Got a source for that? My cursory reading of https://www.dalloz-actualite.fr/chronique/reflexions-sur-l-usage-et-place-de-video-dans-proces-penal-en-france https://www.dalloz-actualite.fr/chronique/reflexions-sur-l-u... seems to only limit it for accusation by public authorities.
- BiteCode_dev 5y ago
  https://www.eye-tech.fr/videosurveillance-constituer-preuve-judiciaire/ https://www.eye-tech.fr/videosurveillance-constituer-preuve-... "Pour assurer la fiabilité de la preuve soumise via un dispositif de vidéosurveillance, la qualité de l’image s’avère également déterminante ; plus précisément, elle doit comporter 704 x 576 pixels de résolution au moins et une cadence de 12 images par seconde et plus. L’installation d’un tel système doit être justifiée par un besoin de sécurité ou de protection (personnes, biens, locaux, mesure d’anti-terrorisme). Dans le domaine privé, les personnes concernées doivent en être avisées et vous devez déclarer le dispositif à la CNIL." "dans le domaine privé" could mean "by private party" or "on private properties", and since IANAL, I don't know which one. The first one would match my understanding, the second would mean the public street would be ok.
  - tripa 5y ago
    Thanks for the link! It's labelled «vidéosurveillance» though, it feels like it only applies to fixed permanent cameras, not smartphone or GoPro ad-hoc evidence.
    - BiteCode_dev 5y ago
      Indeed, but "vidéosurveillance" works for mobile camera if put on a guard or on the police. On a civilian? I don't know. Maybe intent matters. This is where I guess I have to ask my lawyer.