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Can someone explains what's the goal? I couldn't find the WHY on their website.

by vvoyer 5y ago

themmes 5y ago
I assume their goals are similar to the "WebContainers" project [0] they link to. - development environment with a browser as only requirement - easily shareable development environment - fast to "boot" environment However, as I read both pages I'm not sure what benefits Browser-vite offers over WebContainers. [0] https://blog.stackblitz.com/posts/introducing-webcontainers/ https://blog.stackblitz.com/posts/introducing-webcontainers/
ratww 5y ago
Running a bundler/transpiler in the browser seems to be the goal in itself, but if you’re asking why that is useful: to allow developer tools to run in a browser, without a backend. Their products are dev oriented, so they can save server time this way.
sytse 5y ago
This is made by StackBlitz (not really, see reply to this comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29812650 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29812650 ) who make a Cloud IDE that runs in the browser instead of a server. As for the why of that see https://blog.stackblitz.com/posts/introducing-webcontainers/ https://blog.stackblitz.com/posts/introducing-webcontainers/ "What about Code Spaces/Sandbox/Repls/...? Legacy online IDEs run your entire dev environment on a remote server and stream the results back across the internet to your browser. The problem with this approach is that it yields few security benefits and provides a worse experience than your local machine in nearly every way: it takes minutes to spin up containers, is prone to network latency, cannot work offline, often results in network timeouts, debugging frozen/broken containers is nearly impossible, and hitting refresh just reconnects you to the broken container again."
- georges_gomes 5y ago
  WebContainers are made by Stackblitz but the link is about `browser-vite` [0]. It's made by ‹div›RIOTS [1] and it's something else. There is a chapter in the post that compares `browser-vite` and `WebContainers` [2]. [0] https://github.com/divriots/browser-vite https://github.com/divriots/browser-vite [1] https://divRIOTS.com https://divRIOTS.com [2] https://divriots.com/blog/vite-in-the-browser#how-does-it-compare-to-stackblitz-webcontainers https://divriots.com/blog/vite-in-the-browser#how-does-it-co...
  - sytse 5y ago
    Thanks for the correction!
rk06 5y ago
To power their products mentioned in https://divriots.com/#what-we-do https://divriots.com/#what-we-do
jkrubin 5y ago
100% agree. No idea what the why was.

Can someone explains what's the goal? I couldn't find the WHY on their website.

by vvoyer 5y ago

Can someone explains what's the goal? I couldn't find the WHY on their website.

I assume their goals are similar to the "WebContainers" project [0] they link to. - development environment with a browser as only requirement - easily shareable development environment - fast to "boot" environment However, as I read both pages I'm not sure what benefits Browser-vite offers over WebContainers. [0] https://blog.stackblitz.com/posts/introducing-webcontainers/ https://blog.stackblitz.com/posts/introducing-webcontainers/

ratww 5y ago

Running a bundler/transpiler in the browser seems to be the goal in itself, but if you’re asking why that is useful: to allow developer tools to run in a browser, without a backend. Their products are dev oriented, so they can save server time this way.

sytse 5y ago

This is made by StackBlitz (not really, see reply to this comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29812650 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29812650 ) who make a Cloud IDE that runs in the browser instead of a server. As for the why of that see https://blog.stackblitz.com/posts/introducing-webcontainers/ https://blog.stackblitz.com/posts/introducing-webcontainers/ "What about Code Spaces/Sandbox/Repls/...? Legacy online IDEs run your entire dev environment on a remote server and stream the results back across the internet to your browser. The problem with this approach is that it yields few security benefits and provides a worse experience than your local machine in nearly every way: it takes minutes to spin up containers, is prone to network latency, cannot work offline, often results in network timeouts, debugging frozen/broken containers is nearly impossible, and hitting refresh just reconnects you to the broken container again."

georges_gomes 5y ago
WebContainers are made by Stackblitz but the link is about `browser-vite` [0]. It's made by ‹div›RIOTS [1] and it's something else. There is a chapter in the post that compares `browser-vite` and `WebContainers` [2]. [0] https://github.com/divriots/browser-vite https://github.com/divriots/browser-vite [1] https://divRIOTS.com https://divRIOTS.com [2] https://divriots.com/blog/vite-in-the-browser#how-does-it-compare-to-stackblitz-webcontainers https://divriots.com/blog/vite-in-the-browser#how-does-it-co...
- sytse 5y ago
  Thanks for the correction!

rk06 5y ago

To power their products mentioned in https://divriots.com/#what-we-do https://divriots.com/#what-we-do

jkrubin 5y ago

100% agree. No idea what the why was.