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I’ve known many Intel process engineers who’ve worked 80 hour weeks for years on end. This 48 hour TSMC demand would be a relief. Unfortunately, while TSMC move

by jmpman 5y ago

I’ve known many Intel process engineers who’ve worked 80 hour weeks for years on end. This 48 hour TSMC demand would be a relief. Unfortunately, while TSMC moved to AZ, the moved to the other side of Phoenix from the existing Fabs. An Intel engineer isn’t going to just wake up one day and decide to change jobs to TSMC. They’re an hour and a half away from each other during the morning commute. So now, the engineer needs to sell their house, move their kids to a different school. Ridiculous. It’s going to be a rare Intel engineer that’s willing to make that jump. They’re going to get the engineers who are running away from Intel, not the good ones.

mywittyname 5y ago
I feel like your post is incongruent. Intel engineers wouldn't be willing to endure a 10-14 hour longer commute to save 32 hours of working time? Moving an hour down the road isn't a big deal. I've done so many times. You don't even need special moving companies and looking at houses isn't a huge deal if you batch them up.
- jmpman 5y ago
  The barrier to move an hour and a half is less than moving across country, but it’s not insignificant. Your kids are changing school/school districts. You’re finding a new church. Your friends who you met for dinner each Friday - not going to see them but once a month now. Your relatives that you invited over for dinner every Tuesday - you’ll see them on birthdays and the holidays. The distance is too far to comfortably commute for more than a year. I did roughly half that same commute for 2 years and it was mentally taxing. And no, the engineers who are working 80 hours a week aren’t “normal” people who are all of a sudden going to start working just 48 hours a week. Btw, the Intel engineers in Chandler aren’t the cause of Intel’s process woes. They’re world class. TSMC is hiring fresh new hires, from a generation that doesn’t yet know or celebrate hard work.

by jmpman 5y ago

mywittyname 5y ago

I feel like your post is incongruent. Intel engineers wouldn't be willing to endure a 10-14 hour longer commute to save 32 hours of working time? Moving an hour down the road isn't a big deal. I've done so many times. You don't even need special moving companies and looking at houses isn't a huge deal if you batch them up.

jmpman 5y ago
The barrier to move an hour and a half is less than moving across country, but it’s not insignificant. Your kids are changing school/school districts. You’re finding a new church. Your friends who you met for dinner each Friday - not going to see them but once a month now. Your relatives that you invited over for dinner every Tuesday - you’ll see them on birthdays and the holidays. The distance is too far to comfortably commute for more than a year. I did roughly half that same commute for 2 years and it was mentally taxing. And no, the engineers who are working 80 hours a week aren’t “normal” people who are all of a sudden going to start working just 48 hours a week. Btw, the Intel engineers in Chandler aren’t the cause of Intel’s process woes. They’re world class. TSMC is hiring fresh new hires, from a generation that doesn’t yet know or celebrate hard work.