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Looking at the first photo, with all the dongles in their own little boxes, and the fact the author bought one "just in case", highlights for me that USB-C is a

Looking at the first photo, with all the dongles in their own little boxes, and the fact the author bought one "just in case", highlights for me that USB-C is a failure. It has introduced massive technical debt into the industry as a whole. Instead of companies all moving gently towards USB-C ubiquity, we have major players* choosing to solve the failings of USB-C on behalf of their users. This is a patch. It'll be 30 years or more before we're over this hump. *=Apple and Framework. I'm calling Framework "major" because they have the ear of the industry. They're a computer-person's computer company.

stavros 5y ago
What would USB-C being a success look like? Everyone throwing away every single device that has an old USB port immediately on day 1?
- CubsFan1060 5y ago
  I am not OP, it a couple things: * Power and cable clarity. For most folks there is no real way to pick up a random power supply, and a random cable, and have any idea how fast your device will actually charge. Or if it will at all. Generally plugging a laptop into a charger that doesn’t supply sufficient power ends up in battery drain while plugged in. * A realistic hub. Every try to find a USBC hub? The best I’ve found without paying multiple hundreds of dollars includes a usbc port for power, and a usbc port for a device. I’ve yet to find a reasonable device that allows me to plug 4 usbc devices into one usbc port.
- pashky 5y ago
  It would look like lots of new devices NOT shipping in 2022 with micro USB (and even mini USB!) and HDMI and barrel power connectors. But unfortunately they still do.
  - jackson1442 5y ago
    Curious- what's shipping with micro usb? I had to find a micro usb cord to charge an older device a few weeks ago and probably have 1 or 2 cords compared with 15 or so USB C cords (and I've never bought a USB C cord outright- those are all from products that shipped with C). As for mini usb, the only thing I own that uses it is my TI-84+ calculator.

stavros 5y ago

What would USB-C being a success look like? Everyone throwing away every single device that has an old USB port immediately on day 1?

CubsFan1060 5y ago
I am not OP, it a couple things: * Power and cable clarity. For most folks there is no real way to pick up a random power supply, and a random cable, and have any idea how fast your device will actually charge. Or if it will at all. Generally plugging a laptop into a charger that doesn’t supply sufficient power ends up in battery drain while plugged in. * A realistic hub. Every try to find a USBC hub? The best I’ve found without paying multiple hundreds of dollars includes a usbc port for power, and a usbc port for a device. I’ve yet to find a reasonable device that allows me to plug 4 usbc devices into one usbc port.
pashky 5y ago
It would look like lots of new devices NOT shipping in 2022 with micro USB (and even mini USB!) and HDMI and barrel power connectors. But unfortunately they still do.
- jackson1442 5y ago
  Curious- what's shipping with micro usb? I had to find a micro usb cord to charge an older device a few weeks ago and probably have 1 or 2 cords compared with 15 or so USB C cords (and I've never bought a USB C cord outright- those are all from products that shipped with C). As for mini usb, the only thing I own that uses it is my TI-84+ calculator.