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I like the idea of the Framework laptop, but I haven't paid more than $500 for a PC, ever.

Andrew_nenakhov 5y ago
Do you adjust it for inflation? 1995 $500 is quite a bit more than 2021 $500
dijit 5y ago
What decent laptop can you get for $500. I paid £500 for a laptop 10 years ago (so, more with inflation) and it was: 1) Built really shit, fell apart after a year, broken hinges, weird fan noise 2) Got super hot. 3) had about 3hrs on battery if you avoided doing anything on it. 4) was huge and heavy. Not saying you’re wrong. But maybe your expectations vastly differ from mine.
- unnouinceput 5y ago
  I paid $500 for each laptop my kids needed at beginning of pandemic in March 2020 (so $1000 in total). Each is a Ryzen 7, 16 GB RAM and 1 TB SSD (one of them is actually NVMe). Both laptops are still performing greatly without hiccups and they saw 2 vacations on the other side of the country during the 2 summers. And one of them (the NVMe one) I used it to do my work during the 2 weeks vacation last summer (virtualization and virtual machines for all my projects, though I had to get an external USB SSD for the virtual machines to fit with me). All in all if you take care of them it can be used as work horse during vacations. Only thing I can't do on them is last generation gaming, for that I need my usual work horse which is a $2500 desktop gaming rig.
  - dijit 5y ago
    Which laptops?
- ulnarkressty 5y ago
  Refurb last year's model off eBay. Paid a quarter of the price on a high-end ultrabook and it looks brand new.
  - dijit 5y ago
    Fair, bit like buying a used car: can't be expected to pay full price. Macbooks seemingly hold their value though, and it's a wonder of why this is.
  - FearlessNebula 5y ago
    Do you mean 75% of the price? I find it nearly impossible to believe you got a 1/4 discount off a 1 year old refurbished high-end ultra book. You’re telling me a $2k laptop dropped to $500?
    - ulnarkressty 5y ago
      You can find a $1500 laptop for $400-ish if you're willing to wait it out. Either used or refurbs from other countries, provided you can live with some minor inconveniences like the wrong keyboard. Nothing a $2 sticker set won't fix.
      - FearlessNebula 5y ago
        Interesting, I’ve never looked at importing slightly used international models
- dijit 5y ago
  Ok. Unpopular opinion. This was my laptop[0], since nobody is sharing theirs and just talking about hypothetical $500 new laptops. This laptop is the reason I don’t buy bottom of the barrel prices with high specifications. [0]: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Acer-Aspire-5520G.6408.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Acer-Aspire-5520G.6408.0.html
qbasic_forever 5y ago
Well this isn't the market for you, and Framework have never claimed to be going for the ultra cheap laptop market. At least not yet... perhaps if they get a lot of enthusiastic support they'll see a market for the $500 upgradeable laptop.
FearlessNebula 5y ago
What are you using currently?

Do you adjust it for inflation? 1995 $500 is quite a bit more than 2021 $500

What decent laptop can you get for $500. I paid £500 for a laptop 10 years ago (so, more with inflation) and it was: 1) Built really shit, fell apart after a year, broken hinges, weird fan noise 2) Got super hot. 3) had about 3hrs on battery if you avoided doing anything on it. 4) was huge and heavy. Not saying you’re wrong. But maybe your expectations vastly differ from mine.

unnouinceput 5y ago
I paid $500 for each laptop my kids needed at beginning of pandemic in March 2020 (so $1000 in total). Each is a Ryzen 7, 16 GB RAM and 1 TB SSD (one of them is actually NVMe). Both laptops are still performing greatly without hiccups and they saw 2 vacations on the other side of the country during the 2 summers. And one of them (the NVMe one) I used it to do my work during the 2 weeks vacation last summer (virtualization and virtual machines for all my projects, though I had to get an external USB SSD for the virtual machines to fit with me). All in all if you take care of them it can be used as work horse during vacations. Only thing I can't do on them is last generation gaming, for that I need my usual work horse which is a $2500 desktop gaming rig.
- dijit 5y ago
  Which laptops?
ulnarkressty 5y ago
Refurb last year's model off eBay. Paid a quarter of the price on a high-end ultrabook and it looks brand new.
- dijit 5y ago
  Fair, bit like buying a used car: can't be expected to pay full price. Macbooks seemingly hold their value though, and it's a wonder of why this is.
- FearlessNebula 5y ago
  Do you mean 75% of the price? I find it nearly impossible to believe you got a 1/4 discount off a 1 year old refurbished high-end ultra book. You’re telling me a $2k laptop dropped to $500?
  - ulnarkressty 5y ago
    You can find a $1500 laptop for $400-ish if you're willing to wait it out. Either used or refurbs from other countries, provided you can live with some minor inconveniences like the wrong keyboard. Nothing a $2 sticker set won't fix.
    - FearlessNebula 5y ago
      Interesting, I’ve never looked at importing slightly used international models
dijit 5y ago
Ok. Unpopular opinion. This was my laptop[0], since nobody is sharing theirs and just talking about hypothetical $500 new laptops. This laptop is the reason I don’t buy bottom of the barrel prices with high specifications. [0]: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Acer-Aspire-5520G.6408.0.html https://www.notebookcheck.net/Acer-Aspire-5520G.6408.0.html

qbasic_forever 5y ago

Well this isn't the market for you, and Framework have never claimed to be going for the ultra cheap laptop market. At least not yet... perhaps if they get a lot of enthusiastic support they'll see a market for the $500 upgradeable laptop.

FearlessNebula 5y ago

What are you using currently?