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What? No. The reason they got ahead was because their business model got them volume production on a scale that let them tweak and improve their process faster

by atty 5y ago

What? No. The reason they got ahead was because their business model got them volume production on a scale that let them tweak and improve their process faster and more efficiently compared to the competition. And Intel shooting themselves in the foot and skipping EUV for their last few nodes was a big factor too. Also, suggesting people are “weak” or “strong” based on the number of hours they’re willing/able to work is… problematic at best.

analognoise 5y ago
Because we're all done with that "grind culture" bullshit, 100%, and we're finally calling it out for what it is.
- chrisjc 5y ago
  Who's "we're"? There will always be those willing to embrace the "grind culture". Whether it's new grads eager for experience, those that have experienced life without opportunity and "freedom" or just those desperate to make ends meet.
  - analognoise 5y ago
    See? It's out in the open now. Hustle culture exploits the young, the economically disadvantaged, and the desperate. It's basically poison, and there are enough people finally saying the quiet part out loud. I guess "we" is whoever doesn't believe in exploiting the young, economically disadvantaged, or desperate. I guess some people love exploiting vulnerable groups though, you're right. I just assumed nobody would want to be associated with that kinda toxicity.
  - j_walter 5y ago
    Exactly this...there are always those willing to work their ass off to succeed. Those who are willing to do so get rewarded...but finding out who those people are takes time and generally that's not something you can see on a resume. The engineer in this story may not fit the bill...
    - analognoise 5y ago
      Does anyone believe the "work hard you'll be rewarded" schtick anymore? Usually the only reward is...more work. You can destroy yourself and your relationships for a job and they won't "reward you" if they can.
      - j_walter 5y ago
        Certainly not everyone and there are plenty of companies not willing to reward you the proper way. In my experience TSMC is not one of those companies.

by atty 5y ago

analognoise 5y ago

Because we're all done with that "grind culture" bullshit, 100%, and we're finally calling it out for what it is.

chrisjc 5y ago
Who's "we're"? There will always be those willing to embrace the "grind culture". Whether it's new grads eager for experience, those that have experienced life without opportunity and "freedom" or just those desperate to make ends meet.
- analognoise 5y ago
  See? It's out in the open now. Hustle culture exploits the young, the economically disadvantaged, and the desperate. It's basically poison, and there are enough people finally saying the quiet part out loud. I guess "we" is whoever doesn't believe in exploiting the young, economically disadvantaged, or desperate. I guess some people love exploiting vulnerable groups though, you're right. I just assumed nobody would want to be associated with that kinda toxicity.
- j_walter 5y ago
  Exactly this...there are always those willing to work their ass off to succeed. Those who are willing to do so get rewarded...but finding out who those people are takes time and generally that's not something you can see on a resume. The engineer in this story may not fit the bill...
  - analognoise 5y ago
    Does anyone believe the "work hard you'll be rewarded" schtick anymore? Usually the only reward is...more work. You can destroy yourself and your relationships for a job and they won't "reward you" if they can.
    - j_walter 5y ago
      Certainly not everyone and there are plenty of companies not willing to reward you the proper way. In my experience TSMC is not one of those companies.