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Sure, but you’re forgetting the point of this. You are trying to claim that psychological addiction isn’t as real as physiological addiction, not just for alco

by zepto 5y ago

Sure, but you’re forgetting the point of this. You are trying to claim that psychological addiction isn’t as real as physiological addiction, not just for alcohol. It’s clear that you care a lot about alcoholics with DT’s. What isn’t clear is why you want to deny the difficulties of people who have psychological addictions to any kind of drug. Is it just a numbers game for you?

notch656a 5y ago
>You are trying to claim that psychological addiction isn’t as real as physiological addiction, not just for alcohol. I never said such a thing and this is just a malevolent and calculated lie. >What isn’t clear is why you want to deny the difficulties of people who have psychological addictions to any kind of drug. It's not clear because no such denial exists, and it's only alleged as part of a malevolent and calculated lie. My original comment said they were both real. I'm saying regarding being straight up executed, the numbers game is that psychological addiction doesn't look nearly as likely to straight up execute you. I've said nothing to say psychologist addiction isn't a difficult for some people. I don't know about you, but I think it's extremely important, ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE WITH EXPERIENCE IN PSYCHOLOGICALLY ADDICTIVE SUBSTANCES who have perhaps had insanely hard struggles with things like opiates to understand that no amount of willpower will spare them from the very real chance of involuntary death from benzo or alcohol withdrawal. You've built a straw man as tall as the wall of china is wide.
- zepto 5y ago
  > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29800156 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29800156 This is the comment you were arguing against.
  - notch656a 5y ago
    I thought it was clear that I said both were real, but I understand maybe it was not interpreted by you that way. I wasn't saying your comment was wrong, I was speaking with thought in mind of some inferences that might be made based on your statement.
    - zepto 5y ago
      What inferences? It sounds like you were responding to something other than what I wrote.
      - notch656a 5y ago
        I was responding to what you wrote. I was worried it could be inferred the flat out execution would be the same level of "real" for psychological as it is for the physiological. I was worried someone who has gone through insanely torturous psychological opiate withdrawal for instance would think that if they're both just as real, that means their odds of involuntary death from psychological withdrawal and physiological withdraw looks the same and they can just mentally power through physiological addiction like some strong-willed people may be able to with psychological addiction. Of course this is wrong. You can't willpower your way out of delerium tremens. You can be executed, no matter what conscious decision you make. I do not believe this is what you wrote. I was adding to the conversation. Do you believe it is ok to add to the conversation? Not every comment is meant to literally attempt to disprove the person above them. I was not disproving your statement.

by zepto 5y ago

notch656a 5y ago

>You are trying to claim that psychological addiction isn’t as real as physiological addiction, not just for alcohol. I never said such a thing and this is just a malevolent and calculated lie. >What isn’t clear is why you want to deny the difficulties of people who have psychological addictions to any kind of drug. It's not clear because no such denial exists, and it's only alleged as part of a malevolent and calculated lie. My original comment said they were both real. I'm saying regarding being straight up executed, the numbers game is that psychological addiction doesn't look nearly as likely to straight up execute you. I've said nothing to say psychologist addiction isn't a difficult for some people. I don't know about you, but I think it's extremely important, ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE WITH EXPERIENCE IN PSYCHOLOGICALLY ADDICTIVE SUBSTANCES who have perhaps had insanely hard struggles with things like opiates to understand that no amount of willpower will spare them from the very real chance of involuntary death from benzo or alcohol withdrawal. You've built a straw man as tall as the wall of china is wide.

zepto 5y ago
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29800156 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29800156 This is the comment you were arguing against.
- notch656a 5y ago
  I thought it was clear that I said both were real, but I understand maybe it was not interpreted by you that way. I wasn't saying your comment was wrong, I was speaking with thought in mind of some inferences that might be made based on your statement.
  - zepto 5y ago
    What inferences? It sounds like you were responding to something other than what I wrote.
    - notch656a 5y ago
      I was responding to what you wrote. I was worried it could be inferred the flat out execution would be the same level of "real" for psychological as it is for the physiological. I was worried someone who has gone through insanely torturous psychological opiate withdrawal for instance would think that if they're both just as real, that means their odds of involuntary death from psychological withdrawal and physiological withdraw looks the same and they can just mentally power through physiological addiction like some strong-willed people may be able to with psychological addiction. Of course this is wrong. You can't willpower your way out of delerium tremens. You can be executed, no matter what conscious decision you make. I do not believe this is what you wrote. I was adding to the conversation. Do you believe it is ok to add to the conversation? Not every comment is meant to literally attempt to disprove the person above them. I was not disproving your statement.