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TL;DR in three lines: >> “The work culture in Taiwan is really different than in the U.S.,” said a person identified as a TSMC Arizona fab equipment engineer o
by schappim 5y ago
TL;DR in three lines:
>> “The work culture in Taiwan is really different than in the U.S.,” said a person identified as a TSMC Arizona fab equipment engineer on Glassdoor
>> “The reality for people from Taiwan is that they are doing even more than 12-hour days often".
>> “TSMC will have to change to an eight-hour work day five days a week.”
... well yes!
- black_13 5y ago
- otherotherchris 5y agoBullshit article. Intel rosters it's staff onto 12 hour shifts in their fabs too.
- radiator 5y agoAbout the last line, I am surprised it is mentioned. One would think that TSMC might have known about this small issue, before deciding to build a plant in the USA.
- j_walter 5y agoThis is not their first plant in the US, and working >8 hour days is the norm for most engineers there.
- radiator 5y agoYes, I see now in your and others' comments that I had some false impressions about working conditions in american factories.
- j_walter 5y agoThe working requirements in 24/7 manufacturing facilities is different than most 8-5 jobs. When you have $30B invested into a facility you have to maximize output and that means keeping all of the equipment up and running.
- otherotherchris 5y agoDowntime in one of these EUV fabs is going to cost in excess of ~$1m worth of product per hour. So yeah, you keep it staffed full of very talented maintenance technicians 24/7.
- rbanffy 5y ago> Downtime in one of these EUV fabs is going to cost in excess of ~$1m worth of product per hour. Looks like there is a lot of budget flexibility to properly pay their staff then.
- square_usual 5y ago“An equipment engineer might start work at 8 o’clock in the morning and leave around 9 o’clock at night, but is it normal? This may happen two or three days a week This was the line that had me in splits, like "What do you mean staying 13 hours a day two to three days a week makes it normal?"
- mlyle 5y agoNormal fab work is a 12 hour shift-- plus having to suit up and unsuit outside those shifts-- 3.5 times per week in the US. Yes, this means some overtime.
- square_usual 5y agoRegardless of whether it's actually normal or not, I find it funny that the engineer thinks something happening "2 to 3 times a week" doesn't make it normal.
- mlyle 5y agoNormal and routine aren't quite the same thing. My friends and I may lick doorknobs 3 times per week, but others would be hard pressed to describe it as "normal". Though perhaps within the context of our custom, and from our point of view, it is. P.S. I don't actually lick doorknobs.
- ytch 5y agoOr: Somebody works at "Non-exist" Fab 8 hours a day, and insist that TSMC must follow such rules.