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It would be the only state with no agricultural interests, the only state with no ports, the only state where the majority of the residents work for the federal

It would be the only state with no agricultural interests, the only state with no ports, the only state where the majority of the residents work for the federal government... The last one alone is pretty scary and a bit of a conflict of interest.

lmm 5y ago
> the only state with no ports Huh? What about, IDK, Idaho?
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- dnautics 5y ago
  https://itd.idaho.gov/poe-locations/ https://itd.idaho.gov/poe-locations/
  - lmm 5y ago
    I think those are weigh stations, not ports in the usual sense of the word.
    - dnautics 5y ago
      Ports of entry are surprisingly important regulatory entities at the state level, and DC doesn't have any. Don't deflect from your ignorance.
      - lmm 5y ago
        Here is a list of usual definitions of the ordinary word port: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/port https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/port . If you mean some term of art which is opposed to the usual everyday meaning of the word, it's your responsibility to be explicit. Don't deflect from your poor communication.
      - Aloha 5y ago
        Doing what? I'm a former truck driver - they levy no substantive taxes, they perform at most a cursory vehicle safety function. Like I was unaware that oversized and overweight truck permits were an important regulatory function.
  - Aloha 5y ago
    If you want to make an argument about what a port is, picking land "points of entry" isn't a good argument. Airports are a better yardstick. A new Capitol State could easily establish both a port and points of entry if it so chose, the Potomac is somewhat in practice (and legally) a navigable river and there are US highways and interstates that go thru Washington DC. Furthermore the WMAA would likely come under the control of the city.
- chromatin 5y ago
  Bad example, Idaho has a seaport https://portoflewiston.com/ https://portoflewiston.com/
wbl 5y ago
North Dakota? Montana? Arizona? Lots of landlocked states.
- dnautics 5y ago
  These states all have ports of entry.
vkou 5y ago
> the only state where the majority of the residents work for the federal government... The last one alone is pretty scary and a bit of a conflict of interest. You can quite literally say this about any group of people. I don't like landlords, I find it scary that landlords can vote and contribute to political campaigns. Imagine the awful and self-serving things that landlords would do if they ever turned the powers of our political machine to their own ends! I don't like resource industries, I find it scary that Texas and North Dakota get the vote. I don't like techies, California should lose a few seats in Congress, etc, etc, etc. Oh, and your numbers aren't even right, there are 140,000 federal government employees in DC, and many of them commute in. That's not 'the majority' of the residents by any stretch of the imagination.
imgabe 5y ago
> It would be the only state with no agricultural interests, Wasn't aware this was a requirement to be a state. Is it in the Constitution somewhere? We'll plant some corn on the Mall or something. > the only state with no ports, You clarify below you're talking about Ports of Entry, or state government buildings for managing goods coming into the state. So...DC will make some? Are these naturally occurring structures and if you don't have any in your area you're just screwed? > the only state where the majority of the residents work for the federal government Not even true. DC has 200,000 federal employees out of 680,000 residents. A little over a quarter. Not even close to a majority. Most federal employees work outside DC. Note that taking a job as a federal employee does not mean you should be deprived of Congressional representation. [1] https://cfo.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ocfo/publication/attachments/EINov2021.pdf https://cfo.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ocfo/publica...

lmm 5y ago

> the only state with no ports Huh? What about, IDK, Idaho?

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dnautics 5y ago
https://itd.idaho.gov/poe-locations/ https://itd.idaho.gov/poe-locations/
- lmm 5y ago
  I think those are weigh stations, not ports in the usual sense of the word.
  - dnautics 5y ago
    Ports of entry are surprisingly important regulatory entities at the state level, and DC doesn't have any. Don't deflect from your ignorance.
    - lmm 5y ago
      Here is a list of usual definitions of the ordinary word port: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/port https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/port . If you mean some term of art which is opposed to the usual everyday meaning of the word, it's your responsibility to be explicit. Don't deflect from your poor communication.
    - Aloha 5y ago
      Doing what? I'm a former truck driver - they levy no substantive taxes, they perform at most a cursory vehicle safety function. Like I was unaware that oversized and overweight truck permits were an important regulatory function.
- Aloha 5y ago
  If you want to make an argument about what a port is, picking land "points of entry" isn't a good argument. Airports are a better yardstick. A new Capitol State could easily establish both a port and points of entry if it so chose, the Potomac is somewhat in practice (and legally) a navigable river and there are US highways and interstates that go thru Washington DC. Furthermore the WMAA would likely come under the control of the city.
chromatin 5y ago
Bad example, Idaho has a seaport https://portoflewiston.com/ https://portoflewiston.com/

wbl 5y ago

North Dakota? Montana? Arizona? Lots of landlocked states.

dnautics 5y ago
These states all have ports of entry.

vkou 5y ago

> the only state where the majority of the residents work for the federal government... The last one alone is pretty scary and a bit of a conflict of interest. You can quite literally say this about any group of people. I don't like landlords, I find it scary that landlords can vote and contribute to political campaigns. Imagine the awful and self-serving things that landlords would do if they ever turned the powers of our political machine to their own ends! I don't like resource industries, I find it scary that Texas and North Dakota get the vote. I don't like techies, California should lose a few seats in Congress, etc, etc, etc. Oh, and your numbers aren't even right, there are 140,000 federal government employees in DC, and many of them commute in. That's not 'the majority' of the residents by any stretch of the imagination.

imgabe 5y ago

> It would be the only state with no agricultural interests, Wasn't aware this was a requirement to be a state. Is it in the Constitution somewhere? We'll plant some corn on the Mall or something. > the only state with no ports, You clarify below you're talking about Ports of Entry, or state government buildings for managing goods coming into the state. So...DC will make some? Are these naturally occurring structures and if you don't have any in your area you're just screwed? > the only state where the majority of the residents work for the federal government Not even true. DC has 200,000 federal employees out of 680,000 residents. A little over a quarter. Not even close to a majority. Most federal employees work outside DC. Note that taking a job as a federal employee does not mean you should be deprived of Congressional representation. [1] https://cfo.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ocfo/publication/attachments/EINov2021.pdf https://cfo.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ocfo/publica...