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> DC needs to be a state. Alternatively, give back all of the residential parts back to Maryland (like Arlington was given back to VA). For a long time this w
by dnautics 5y ago
> DC needs to be a state.
Alternatively, give back all of the residential parts back to Maryland (like Arlington was given back to VA). For a long time this wasn't politically feasible because DC was rough and MD would not have wanted it, but by now the tax base has to be high enough for it to be a net positive for MD. Of course, the democrats will lose 3 "safe" electoral votes but you could amend the constitution to give them over to Maryland and then take the extra three away over the course of 30 years, or something.
- imgabe 5y agoMD doesn't want that and neither does DC. DC is not Maryland. It's its own place with its own identity.
- dnautics 5y agoI hear this all the time from clueless rich DC residents who get wrapped up in all sorts of granfalloons. You don't think "Arlington" is its own place with its own identity separate from the rest of Virgina? Moreover, anacostia residents probably have more in common with residents of pg county than residents of palisades, who have more in common with bethesda residents than anacostia residents.
- imgabe 5y agoIf the residents of Arlington want to form their own state and secede from Virginia, I'll support them. As it stands, they already have representation in Congress. > Moreover, anacostia residents probably have more in common with residents of pg county than residents of palisades, who have more in common with bethesda residents than anacostia residents. Sure, and residents of Manhattan probably have more in common with people in northern New Jersey than they do with people in Buffalo, but New York still gets to be a state. So what?
- dnautics 5y agoMy point is: There's no shared identity among DC residents, the most of whom don't even really live there all that long, due to political cycles/fluid flight to the suburbs of MD and VA. Your statement is pure nonsense. The most sensible solution is to give DC back to Maryland (which is where it came from) and thereby give the residents representation, which is your end goal. If you want some other end goal, it has to be weighed against the other absurdities of making DC a state.
- selimthegrim 5y agoThe ghost of Petey Greene begs to differ.
- tyre 5y agoI have friends from DC who do feel strong connection to it. It might be the way people think of NYC — i.e. from a city/metropolis rather than a state. But they damn sure don’t think they’re from Maryland.
- imgabe 5y ago> There's no shared identity among DC residents Uhh, yeah there is, if you move beyond happy hour with the other transplants whose dads got them internships in their representative's office and talk to people who actually grew up there. And who cares how long people live there? If I move to VA for 2 years I still get to vote for a representative if there's an election while I'm there. Why should we have a void area in the country where like "ah ah aha, gotcha! you stepped in the your-vote-doesn't-count zone, so your vote doesn't count! Too bad!" This is the government that impacts our lives not some children's board game.
- thaumasiotes 5y ago> If the residents of Arlington want to form their own state and secede from Virginia, I'll support them. This idea doesn't get enough application. NYC should be its own state. LA should be its own state. Most big cities should be their own states. They are not similar to the area around them.
- selimthegrim 5y agoMaybe you want to ask the Anacostia residents how they feel about that. It's not like their ancestors all moved there of their own volition.
- dnautics 5y agoWell considering I volunteered on the border of anacostia and pg county, I think most of them don't really give a shit, eastern ave is just another street in the neighborhood. And yeah, is bet they would bear more resentment towards someone who lives in the Palisades than someone on the other side of eastern avenue. Moreover, last I checked 10 years ago a good chunk of anacostia is transitioning into middle-income/federal employee Hispanic neighborhood and that process is bleeding over into pg county, because the boundaries don't really matter all that much. Edit: southern Ave, not eastern ave; it's been a long time.
- joejerryronnie 5y agoThe only people who say this are Democrats who want another (presumably) safe democratic state in DC. My city doesn’t share the same “identity” as the city next to me, but nobody’s clamoring to break up the state.
- vkou 5y agoYour city's votes get counted during election years. DC is one of the poster children for taxation without representation.
- joejerryronnie 5y agoThat’s why they should consider annexation by Maryland.
- bryanrasmussen 5y agoI hadn't heard the annexation argument before, I suppose the fairest way would be to have an election in DC and people would vote on whether they wanted to be an independent state or part of Maryland, and whichever was chosen would be the way to go. I personally would expect they would want to be their own state, but who knows? If on the other hand people feel the choose their own state is very likely and Maryland unlikely it would probably save money to just go with become their own state.
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- imgabe 5y agoThey’ve had this vote several times. The people of DC overwhelmingly vote to be a state.
- bryanrasmussen 5y agoso then I guess that should shut down the Maryland suggestion. No idea why it would be brought up as a possible solution for democratic representation when it goes against the wishes of the people seeking representation.
- bin_bash 5y agoYou could probably say <LARGEST_CITY> is not <STATE_NAME> for all 50 states without finding much disagreement.