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I think the gist of the article wasn't so much hating Lisp, but hating the culture around it which is a lot of "you're doing it wrong" and feeling superior. A
by smackeyacky 5y ago
I think the gist of the article wasn't so much hating Lisp, but hating the culture around it which is a lot of "you're doing it wrong" and feeling superior. A similar culture pervaded Smalltalk back at the commercial height of it. It's the attitude that turns people off.
Something of a shame really. The lispers and Smalltalkers were their own worst enemies back in the day.
- gumby 5y agoSad. That was totally not the attitude of Smalltalkers or Interlispers when I was at PARC nor when I was MIT-AI but certainly that all predated any commercial "success". I do feel like there's much less snobbery/more inclusiveness these days. Anyone can open up a browser and start typing something executable, and there are so many sites willing to offer help.
- smackeyacky 5y agoMy experience with ParcPlace was as a customer in the 1990s, we found it a struggle to get them to listen to our boring concerns about crud and databases packaging images and whatnot.