I agree, it's definitely not unbelievable that Intel can beat Apple under load. Especially as many workloads will be optimised for x86 (for now). Idle definitel

I agree, it's definitely not unbelievable that Intel can beat Apple under load. Especially as many workloads will be optimised for x86 (for now). Idle definitely seems to be Intel's Achilles heel, although I guess the e-cores will help once good OS support is there as Intel mobile chips seem to be pretty decent at saving power once they go into the lower c-states. I think a lot of the Apple efficiency gains also come from the all-in SoC design (i.e. memory etc. all in the same chip). I guess Intel is trying to make the same play here but I'm sceptical they'll have as much success in the near term simply because they're reliant on OEMs to pretty much redesign their products around that so it could be several years before all the manufacturers cycle their product lines around. Not to mention many PC fans _like_ the fact they can upgrade the RAM in their laptops SODIMM slots.