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It's been on the table since early summer in the Bay Area too. I have no idea what this dude is on about. There are more concerts and events than I remember the

by pb7 5y ago

It's been on the table since early summer in the Bay Area too. I have no idea what this dude is on about. There are more concerts and events than I remember there being in 2019 and they are frequently sold out.

yupper32 5y ago
Of course they're still around, legally. I said they're not really on the table because the vast majority of experts are still saying not to gather in large groups. You have to go out of your way to ignore those experts in order to go to these concerts and events.
- pb7 5y ago
  Yeah, that's their job. Their job isn't to make sure you live a fulfilling and happy life. They're warning you but after that it's up to you to weigh the risks and make decisions within the law of your jurisdiction. Personally, I've had the best time of my life last year and I plan on doing even better this year. You do you.
- blindmute 5y ago
  Do you generally take no responsibility for your happiness and life trajectory, merely marching to orders from faceless strangers, or is that a recent development?
  - yupper32 5y ago
    When a doctor tells you to keep off your feet and go to x weeks of physical therapy, do you ignore them because it won't make you happy? When a doctor tells you to take an antibiotic until the bottle is empty, do you ignore them because you've started to feel fine after half the bottle? When a doctor tells you that you need to lose 50lbs, which will significantly change your lifestyle and in the short-term make you unhappy, do you ignore them? I don't ignore them. I listen to them, and follow their advice. Is this me merely marching to orders from strangers? Is this me taking "no responsibility for [my] happiness and life trajectory"? Why is this Covid situation any different?
    - blindmute 5y ago
      > When a doctor tells you to keep off your feet and go to x weeks of physical therapy, do you ignore them because it won't make you happy? If X is 2+ years, and my feet feel fine, and being off my feet is miserable, then yes I do ignore them. At some point you are responsible for your own life, and that point was a while ago. I hope you realize this before you waste any more of it.
      - yupper32 5y ago
        If a doctor tells me that I'm allergic to a bunch of foods, and I avoid them for years, I don't turn around and say "you know what, it's been 2+ years. I need to just live my best life. I'm just going to ignore the doctors now and eat those foods". It sounds like everyone is just desperately trying to make excuses to ignore the experts here.
        blindmute 5y ago
        So I assume you don't eat red meat or butter? The experts always warn about the health risks of that, too. There's more to life. You don't need an excuse to ignore an expert. It's your own life. You have the full autonomous right and privilege to ignore any advice for any reason you deem worthwhile. I'm eating a sausage literally right now, despite every expert telling me not to. I made this choice. You are in a cage, but the door is open. We are outside the cage urging you to leave. The experts say not to. Will you live? Or remain locked away? I don't care which you choose, but please understand that the consequence of either action is yours. You lose the right to complain about the cage when you choose to be in it.
        School-Cotton 5y ago
        You keep comparing things of wildly different scales. Forgoing normal (i.e. unmasked, undistanced, etc.) social interaction is, for most people, a _much_ bigger sacrifice than giving up a few foods you're allergic to. On the other side, the risk of death or long-term life-altering consequences is _much_ smaller from ignoring Covid precautions than from eating foods you're severely allergic to. (If you didn't mean severely allergic, but only mildly intolerant, then, well, people can and do eat stuff like that all the time.)

by pb7 5y ago

yupper32 5y ago

Of course they're still around, legally. I said they're not really on the table because the vast majority of experts are still saying not to gather in large groups. You have to go out of your way to ignore those experts in order to go to these concerts and events.

pb7 5y ago
Yeah, that's their job. Their job isn't to make sure you live a fulfilling and happy life. They're warning you but after that it's up to you to weigh the risks and make decisions within the law of your jurisdiction. Personally, I've had the best time of my life last year and I plan on doing even better this year. You do you.
blindmute 5y ago
Do you generally take no responsibility for your happiness and life trajectory, merely marching to orders from faceless strangers, or is that a recent development?
- yupper32 5y ago
  When a doctor tells you to keep off your feet and go to x weeks of physical therapy, do you ignore them because it won't make you happy? When a doctor tells you to take an antibiotic until the bottle is empty, do you ignore them because you've started to feel fine after half the bottle? When a doctor tells you that you need to lose 50lbs, which will significantly change your lifestyle and in the short-term make you unhappy, do you ignore them? I don't ignore them. I listen to them, and follow their advice. Is this me merely marching to orders from strangers? Is this me taking "no responsibility for [my] happiness and life trajectory"? Why is this Covid situation any different?
  - blindmute 5y ago
    > When a doctor tells you to keep off your feet and go to x weeks of physical therapy, do you ignore them because it won't make you happy? If X is 2+ years, and my feet feel fine, and being off my feet is miserable, then yes I do ignore them. At some point you are responsible for your own life, and that point was a while ago. I hope you realize this before you waste any more of it.
    - yupper32 5y ago
      If a doctor tells me that I'm allergic to a bunch of foods, and I avoid them for years, I don't turn around and say "you know what, it's been 2+ years. I need to just live my best life. I'm just going to ignore the doctors now and eat those foods". It sounds like everyone is just desperately trying to make excuses to ignore the experts here.
      - blindmute 5y ago
        So I assume you don't eat red meat or butter? The experts always warn about the health risks of that, too. There's more to life. You don't need an excuse to ignore an expert. It's your own life. You have the full autonomous right and privilege to ignore any advice for any reason you deem worthwhile. I'm eating a sausage literally right now, despite every expert telling me not to. I made this choice. You are in a cage, but the door is open. We are outside the cage urging you to leave. The experts say not to. Will you live? Or remain locked away? I don't care which you choose, but please understand that the consequence of either action is yours. You lose the right to complain about the cage when you choose to be in it.
      - School-Cotton 5y ago
        You keep comparing things of wildly different scales. Forgoing normal (i.e. unmasked, undistanced, etc.) social interaction is, for most people, a _much_ bigger sacrifice than giving up a few foods you're allergic to. On the other side, the risk of death or long-term life-altering consequences is _much_ smaller from ignoring Covid precautions than from eating foods you're severely allergic to. (If you didn't mean severely allergic, but only mildly intolerant, then, well, people can and do eat stuff like that all the time.)