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Also note that COVID has killed more people than combat deaths in all U.S. wars combined. U.S. COVID death toll is now 826K, combat death toll for major U.S. w

Also note that COVID has killed more people than combat deaths in all U.S. wars combined. U.S. COVID death toll is now 826K, combat death toll for major U.S. wars is a total of 666K: 291K for WW2, 214K for the Civil War, 53K for WW1, 47K for Vietnam, 33K for Korea, and then numbers start getting negligible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_casualties_of_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_casualt... It's also passed the death toll in the U.S. from the Spanish Flu pandemic, which killed about 675K (although this was out of a smaller total population). It doesn't take a very large death toll to have a major impact on American society.

biscottigelato 5y ago
It's already widely recognized that death toll figure is died 'with' COVID, not died 'from' COVID, which is okay as a number in itself. However direct comparison using such figure is disingenuous.
- nostrademons 5y ago
  Died from COVID is likely even higher than the official death toll. The best metric for this is 2020-2021 excess deaths, subtracting the expected death rate from actual observed deaths. This number is 936K, so about 110K more than I suggested. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm You also can view the weekly totals for observed and predicted deaths on that site. You'll see that deaths from non-COVID causes track the predicted value quite well, but when you add in deaths from COVID, the curve follows the timing of COVID cases quite well.
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ryandrake 5y ago
COVID has averaged a “9/11” amount of deaths every 2-3 days for what, 21 months? The actual single 9/11 event caused us to panic, pass the Patriot Act, and invade two random middle eastern countries. But somehow Americans are fine with a 9/11 sized catastrophe over and over.

biscottigelato 5y ago

It's already widely recognized that death toll figure is died 'with' COVID, not died 'from' COVID, which is okay as a number in itself. However direct comparison using such figure is disingenuous.

nostrademons 5y ago
Died from COVID is likely even higher than the official death toll. The best metric for this is 2020-2021 excess deaths, subtracting the expected death rate from actual observed deaths. This number is 936K, so about 110K more than I suggested. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm You also can view the weekly totals for observed and predicted deaths on that site. You'll see that deaths from non-COVID causes track the predicted value quite well, but when you add in deaths from COVID, the curve follows the timing of COVID cases quite well.

newaccount2021 5y ago

ryandrake 5y ago

COVID has averaged a “9/11” amount of deaths every 2-3 days for what, 21 months? The actual single 9/11 event caused us to panic, pass the Patriot Act, and invade two random middle eastern countries. But somehow Americans are fine with a 9/11 sized catastrophe over and over.