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The answer is simple: it will stop when people decide it is over. Only non-compliance on massive scale will solve this. Science clearly said that Covid will be

by shmel 5y ago

The answer is simple: it will stop when people decide it is over. Only non-compliance on massive scale will solve this. Science clearly said that Covid will be with us forever. We know that vaccines didn't stop the spread in even a single country. There is nothing else to wait. Take back your freedom now.

yupper32 5y ago
Yeah see this is why we can't have a real conversation about this. Every time I bring up this topic I'm bombarded with "ThEy'Re tAkInG YoUr FreEdOm!!" and "VaCcInEs DoN'T EvEn WorK" type people. I'm not part of that group.
- shmel 5y ago
  I didn't say they don't work. They clearly work to significantly reduce deaths and hospitalizations. I totally agree on this. But they didn't stop the spread anywhere in the world. If you want to paint me with your stereotypes, go ahead.
  - khazhoux 5y ago
    In fairness, you are using the stereotypical language of anti-science vaccine deniers: "Non-compliance", "Take back your freedom."
    - sanedigital 5y ago
      Being anti-mandate doesn't make you anti-vax. It's not GP's fault if you can't tell the difference.
    - School-Cotton 5y ago
      They weren't even talking about the vaccine. They were talking about restrictions on (or general unwillingness to participate in) events and social gatherings. This pattern of thinking "if you believe X, you probably believe completely different thing Y, because a lot of people who believe X also believe Y" is a huge part of the problem with contemporary political discourse.
  - colinmhayes 5y ago
    They absolutely slowed the spread before Delta and Omicron hit the scene.
- School-Cotton 5y ago
  Where did the person you're replying to claim vaccines don't work? You're projecting onto people with totally reasonable takes your own prejudices about what other, unreasonable, opinions you think they probably also hold. > I'm not part of that group. If you're not part of the group that believes that freedom is more important than decreasing the spread of Covid, then you've answered your own question. You will be living as you do now for the rest of your life, because Covid is obviously never going away.

by shmel 5y ago

yupper32 5y ago

Yeah see this is why we can't have a real conversation about this. Every time I bring up this topic I'm bombarded with "ThEy'Re tAkInG YoUr FreEdOm!!" and "VaCcInEs DoN'T EvEn WorK" type people. I'm not part of that group.

shmel 5y ago
I didn't say they don't work. They clearly work to significantly reduce deaths and hospitalizations. I totally agree on this. But they didn't stop the spread anywhere in the world. If you want to paint me with your stereotypes, go ahead.
- khazhoux 5y ago
  In fairness, you are using the stereotypical language of anti-science vaccine deniers: "Non-compliance", "Take back your freedom."
  - sanedigital 5y ago
    Being anti-mandate doesn't make you anti-vax. It's not GP's fault if you can't tell the difference.
  - School-Cotton 5y ago
    They weren't even talking about the vaccine. They were talking about restrictions on (or general unwillingness to participate in) events and social gatherings. This pattern of thinking "if you believe X, you probably believe completely different thing Y, because a lot of people who believe X also believe Y" is a huge part of the problem with contemporary political discourse.
- colinmhayes 5y ago
  They absolutely slowed the spread before Delta and Omicron hit the scene.
School-Cotton 5y ago
Where did the person you're replying to claim vaccines don't work? You're projecting onto people with totally reasonable takes your own prejudices about what other, unreasonable, opinions you think they probably also hold. > I'm not part of that group. If you're not part of the group that believes that freedom is more important than decreasing the spread of Covid, then you've answered your own question. You will be living as you do now for the rest of your life, because Covid is obviously never going away.