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If you don't remember something the next day, it's probably not important enough to report anyway. Scrum isn't a recitation of minutiae for its own sake, it's a
by vannevar 5y ago
If you don't remember something the next day, it's probably not important enough to report anyway. Scrum isn't a recitation of minutiae for its own sake, it's a quick summary of progress and blockers. I would hope you could remember what you did or didn't finish yesterday, and whether you're blocked.
And it's great that you communicate with your team when you run into a problem. But spending a few minutes each day giving everyone on the team a quick summary of the outcome of those issues shouldn't seem like a big burden and could be helpful given that you're all working on the same project.
- jjav 5y ago> Scrum isn't a recitation of minutiae for its own sake In 12 years of having to deal with the annoying fad of agile/scrum, I've never seen it be anything other than precisely that: "a recitation of minutiae for its own sake".
- vannevar 5y agoEven your own contribution? Scrum is a team thing---if your scrums are terrible, its because you and your teammates like them that way for some reason. You have no one to blame but yourself if you let it go on for 12 years.
- rxhernandez 5y agoIt's not a big burden to update people, I've just seen the process abused so much that it becomes a colossal waste of time. Why can't I just post an asynchronous update to some group page at the end of the day? > If you don't remember something the next day, it's probably not important enough to report anyway. It can be a big enough deal and still take A LOT of effort to have all the abstractions ready in my mind for that meeting.
- vannevar 5y agoYou definitely don't need to have "all the abstractions" ready in your mind. All you should be doing in scrum is summarizing the current status and what you need from the team. Standup isn't for solving your issue, or even describing it in detail. If the process is being abused, stop abusing it and let your teammates know when they're drilling down too much. If your standups are bad, it's because you and your peers are letting them be bad.
- ipaddr 5y agoIt is an insane burden that wastes everyone's times. Communicate immediately don't wait until the next day. It is an anti-pattern, you end up structuring your work around status updates instead of the real problem.
- vannevar 5y agoScrum is a floor on communication, not a ceiling. There's nothing in scrum that says the team can't meet outside of the daily standup. The standup just ensures that everyone has a chance to hear what's going on with others on the project. If you're "structuring your work around standups", that's on you. I've done scrum for over 15 years and I've never felt the need to do that.