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> no short- or long-term detrimental effects And yet, all my friends who started using mushrooms now post pseudo-spiritual/pseudo-philosophical/pseudo-mystical

by umvi 5y ago

> no short- or long-term detrimental effects And yet, all my friends who started using mushrooms now post pseudo-spiritual/pseudo-philosophical/pseudo-mystical yet completely nonsensical thoughts on social media. You can tell they think it's super deep and meaningful, but for us sober folk it just seems a little nutty. Stuff like: "We are the UNIVERSE. For the universe is within us." or "The Matrix is a system. That system is our enemy. The very minds of the people that need to be saved are not ready to be unplugged. They will fight to protect their truth, as they should. The saving can only come from within." From my sober perspective, it seems like psilocybin causes some users to lose a degree of grip on reality/rationality which I consider "detrimental" (though the users themselves claim it's "enlightening")

zozbot234 5y ago
> You can tell they think it's super deep and meaningful, but for us sober folk it just seems a little nutty. Stuff like: "We are the UNIVERSE. For the universe is within us." or "The Matrix is a system. That system is our enemy. The very minds of the people that need to be saved are not ready to be unplugged. They will fight to protect their truth, as they should. The saving can only come from within." Sounds exactly like what "us sober folks" would say after an intensive meditation retreat in the Vipassana tradition. Maybe the entheogen users are just taking a convenient shortcut.
literalsunbear 5y ago
Do you reject the idea that you and I are both the universe experiencing itself? You seem overly concerned with how often people decide to engage in the positive and apparently harmless practice of indulging in the idea. Are you this scrutinizing toward other spiritual practices such as Christianity or Islam? Not trying to do a whataboutism or anything, just trying to get a good read on exactly how humorless you are.
aqme28 5y ago
And anecdotally i've found shroom use more common among my smartest friends. And the people posting antivax facebook memes or whatever are a totally different set of people.

by umvi 5y ago

zozbot234 5y ago

> You can tell they think it's super deep and meaningful, but for us sober folk it just seems a little nutty. Stuff like: "We are the UNIVERSE. For the universe is within us." or "The Matrix is a system. That system is our enemy. The very minds of the people that need to be saved are not ready to be unplugged. They will fight to protect their truth, as they should. The saving can only come from within." Sounds exactly like what "us sober folks" would say after an intensive meditation retreat in the Vipassana tradition. Maybe the entheogen users are just taking a convenient shortcut.

literalsunbear 5y ago

Do you reject the idea that you and I are both the universe experiencing itself? You seem overly concerned with how often people decide to engage in the positive and apparently harmless practice of indulging in the idea. Are you this scrutinizing toward other spiritual practices such as Christianity or Islam? Not trying to do a whataboutism or anything, just trying to get a good read on exactly how humorless you are.

aqme28 5y ago

And anecdotally i've found shroom use more common among my smartest friends. And the people posting antivax facebook memes or whatever are a totally different set of people.