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It's astounding to watch consumer "activists" just demand higher wages without the willingness to pay more for what they buy.

ocdtrekkie 5y ago
I regularly suggest restaurants pay people more. I will not be shocked or upset when the prices go up. Hopefully way up so we can retire the silly process of having to tip while we're at it, and the restaurant can, in fact, actually pay people. (Note that with pickup orders, the tip line on the receipt is incredibly stressful for me: I shouldn't tip because there isn't table service, but I should tip because the restaurant staff are still getting underpaid...) And yeah, it's probably going to cause some people to reevaluate going to restaurants. They might cook more at home, and better appreciate the higher cost when they do eat out, and in turn, the world moves forward.
Clubber 5y ago
I'd be willing to pay more for a better experience. When you go to a restaurant who treats their employees like shit, those same employees seem to not give a shit, because they aren't paid well enough to give a shit. I'd rather go to a great restaurant once than a shit one three times. It's pretty hard to be hospitable to your guests when you aren't treated hospitably by your employer. Inhospitality trickles down too.
pkaye 5y ago
It's astounding to watch businesses just demand workers without the willingness to pay what the free market demands. Some of those restaurant workers upskilled to better jobs so don't expect them to go back to lower paying jobs if they can.
- fishtacos 5y ago
  It's even more astounding to witness the entitlement of someone running a "small business" in LAS VEGAS complaining about paying living wages and related business costs all the while married to the co-founder of Shopify and financially more stable than 99.99999+% of her employee base... the lack of self-awareness is shocking, though not that surprising given the bubble she lives in.
Kluny 5y ago
We're willing to pay. We just think the employers should be paying their share too. "Dozens of big companies headed by top-paid CEOs collected COVID-19 government benefits" https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/ceo-pay-covid-19-1.6303304 https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/ceo-pay-covid-19-1.6303304 "Canada’s top CEOs saw average pay increase of almost $100k in 2020" https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2022/01/04/canadas-top-ceos-saw-average-pay-increase-of-almost-100k-in-2020.html https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2022/01/04/canadas-top-ceos...
- missedthecue 5y ago
  Is a $100k increase for the top CEOs in the country supposed to sound like a big number? That's probably not even keeping up with inflation.
88913527 5y ago
There's a lot of ways to raise wages without prices. You can reduce profits. You can reduce staff (paying each staff member more). Why should this be the consumer's problem?
- kbelder 5y ago
  Because reduced profits may close the business. Reduced staff can hurt the service and quality of the product. Both are a problem for the consumer.

ocdtrekkie 5y ago

I regularly suggest restaurants pay people more. I will not be shocked or upset when the prices go up. Hopefully way up so we can retire the silly process of having to tip while we're at it, and the restaurant can, in fact, actually pay people. (Note that with pickup orders, the tip line on the receipt is incredibly stressful for me: I shouldn't tip because there isn't table service, but I should tip because the restaurant staff are still getting underpaid...) And yeah, it's probably going to cause some people to reevaluate going to restaurants. They might cook more at home, and better appreciate the higher cost when they do eat out, and in turn, the world moves forward.

Clubber 5y ago

I'd be willing to pay more for a better experience. When you go to a restaurant who treats their employees like shit, those same employees seem to not give a shit, because they aren't paid well enough to give a shit. I'd rather go to a great restaurant once than a shit one three times. It's pretty hard to be hospitable to your guests when you aren't treated hospitably by your employer. Inhospitality trickles down too.

pkaye 5y ago

It's astounding to watch businesses just demand workers without the willingness to pay what the free market demands. Some of those restaurant workers upskilled to better jobs so don't expect them to go back to lower paying jobs if they can.

fishtacos 5y ago
It's even more astounding to witness the entitlement of someone running a "small business" in LAS VEGAS complaining about paying living wages and related business costs all the while married to the co-founder of Shopify and financially more stable than 99.99999+% of her employee base... the lack of self-awareness is shocking, though not that surprising given the bubble she lives in.

Kluny 5y ago

We're willing to pay. We just think the employers should be paying their share too. "Dozens of big companies headed by top-paid CEOs collected COVID-19 government benefits" https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/ceo-pay-covid-19-1.6303304 https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/ceo-pay-covid-19-1.6303304 "Canada’s top CEOs saw average pay increase of almost $100k in 2020" https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2022/01/04/canadas-top-ceos-saw-average-pay-increase-of-almost-100k-in-2020.html https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2022/01/04/canadas-top-ceos...

missedthecue 5y ago
Is a $100k increase for the top CEOs in the country supposed to sound like a big number? That's probably not even keeping up with inflation.

88913527 5y ago

There's a lot of ways to raise wages without prices. You can reduce profits. You can reduce staff (paying each staff member more). Why should this be the consumer's problem?

kbelder 5y ago
Because reduced profits may close the business. Reduced staff can hurt the service and quality of the product. Both are a problem for the consumer.