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The fact that there were five predecessors in the shooting script, and five predecessors in Reloaded / Revolutions, very strongly suggests that they lifted and

The fact that there were five predecessors in the shooting script, and five predecessors in Reloaded / Revolutions, very strongly suggests that they lifted and reworked that plot from the first movie, for reuse in the sequels. From a narrative point of view, it would be confusing as hell to have five predecessors in this iteration of the matrix, as well as five predecessors across five previous iterations of the matrix. Could both have been part of the same overarching, pre-planned plot? Sure. But is that likely? Not at all.

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divbzero 5y ago
It could be something as mundane as the writer liking the sound of ‘five’ and ‘sixth’ in the script.
pfisch 5y ago
Almost like having false dragons in the wheel of time, and also many predecessors who are real dragons... To be fair though I always assumed the second and third matrixes were retroactive revisions. They are just so different from the first one.
kemitche 5y ago
The number is only five in both cases because only one plot was eventually used. Had the Morpheus 5 been kept in, it would have been trivial to use a different number of cycles (7, 10, 400, whatever) and avoid the confusion.
- eappleby 5y ago
  If Morpheus found 5 previous "The Ones", then I believe that there would still need to be 5 separate iterations of Neo, since after each iteration, the Architect wipes out Zion except for a small number of people that are used for repopulation. Morpheus would need to have been part of each of those genocides which he probably would have brought up in conversation.
  - tmottabr 5y ago
    no, the two things are completely unrelated the matrix could have gone trought 5 iteractions of the one cicle that morpheus knew nothing about, each resulting in the destruction of zion. yet in this current version of the matrix, during this cicle, morpheus could have find 5 previous individuals that he tough were candidates to being the one, all that were ultimately not the one and who died fighting smith, before finaly finding neo the actual one for this latest cicle of the matrix.

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divbzero 5y ago

It could be something as mundane as the writer liking the sound of ‘five’ and ‘sixth’ in the script.

pfisch 5y ago

Almost like having false dragons in the wheel of time, and also many predecessors who are real dragons... To be fair though I always assumed the second and third matrixes were retroactive revisions. They are just so different from the first one.

kemitche 5y ago

The number is only five in both cases because only one plot was eventually used. Had the Morpheus 5 been kept in, it would have been trivial to use a different number of cycles (7, 10, 400, whatever) and avoid the confusion.

eappleby 5y ago
If Morpheus found 5 previous "The Ones", then I believe that there would still need to be 5 separate iterations of Neo, since after each iteration, the Architect wipes out Zion except for a small number of people that are used for repopulation. Morpheus would need to have been part of each of those genocides which he probably would have brought up in conversation.
- tmottabr 5y ago
  no, the two things are completely unrelated the matrix could have gone trought 5 iteractions of the one cicle that morpheus knew nothing about, each resulting in the destruction of zion. yet in this current version of the matrix, during this cicle, morpheus could have find 5 previous individuals that he tough were candidates to being the one, all that were ultimately not the one and who died fighting smith, before finaly finding neo the actual one for this latest cicle of the matrix.