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The customer of a mercedes EQS is not losing a lot of sleep over missing a front trunk. their current s-class doesn't have one either and they somehow carry on.

by Kapura 5y ago

ajross 5y ago
Right, but "carrying on" is pretty much apt, to anyone who's driven a car with a frunk. I mean, no, it's not like it's going to solve world hunger or create billions in value for a new startup ecosystem. But a frunk really is a pretty great idea.
- avalys 5y ago
  The frunk in my Tesla Model 3 was too shallow to use to store anything (because the front motor was underneath) and the metal on the hood was so thin it felt like I was going to bend it every time I shut it. Pointless.
  - sho_hn 5y ago
    Some cars with frunks also have issues with them being an additional vector for road noise to impact the cabin, which is already an issue in EVs due to nothing being masked by ICE noise. That's certainly a solvable engineering problem (and Tesla has made changes in successive generations to try and improve the situation, for example), but the insulation/padding required further impacts the usable space. In any case, the EQS likely has the quietest interior of any EV to date.
  - ajross 5y ago
    Groceries? Jackets? Thanksgiving pot luck dishes you don't want to stink up the cabin? Muddy boots after a hike? Tire chains? Ice scraper? I guess everyone's different. To us it was a revelation.
    - avalys 5y ago
      Literally none of those would fit in the front trunk of my Model 3, except the ice scraper. See this pic: https://twitter.com/model3owners/status/891361384658763777 https://twitter.com/model3owners/status/891361384658763777 and note that it is shallower up front - that bag is just a few inches tall and it is nearly level with the latch. The fact that the shape is irregular, and the hood metal is so thin, also increases the chance you will accidentally bend the hood by trying to close it on an object that doesn't fit.
      - ajross 5y ago
        Literally all of them have gone in my Y, which isn't more than an inch or two deeper. Honestly you're overstating this. If you didn't like it you didn't like it, but don't tell me you can't get useful stuff in there.
        avalys 5y ago
        My practical experience owning a Model 3 for three years was the frunk was too shallow and irregularly-shaped for me to ever bother trying to put anything in there. Thus, the frunk was, in practice, useless. That is what I'm telling you. Yes, if you decide that you absolutely must put something in the frunk, you certainly can. It obviously has a non-zero volume. But in all circumstances I found it more convenient to put things in the rear trunk, the rear footwells, or the (super useful) storage area under the rear trunk floor. I thought the Model 3 was a fantastic car by the way. I loved it. I just thought the frunk was a useless novelty. (The frunk in my Porsche Boxster, on the other hand, is deep and rectangular and very useful, in part because the engine is in the rear).
  - dreamcompiler 5y ago
    Yes the metal is thin which is why Tesla advises not slamming it but rather letting it down gently and then pushing it closed with the palm of your hand. My Model Y frunk is where I keep a variety of charging cables, adapters, extension cords, tools etc so I can charge from just about any source of electricity on long road trips. Plus a tire inflator, windshield squeegee, and a portable 12v Li-Ion jumper box (so I can help other cars and it's also very handy when camping). All that fits in my frunk with a bit of room to spare.

The customer of a mercedes EQS is not losing a lot of sleep over missing a front trunk. their current s-class doesn't have one either and they somehow carry on.

by Kapura 5y ago

The customer of a mercedes EQS is not losing a lot of sleep over missing a front trunk. their current s-class doesn't have one either and they somehow carry on.

ajross 5y ago

Right, but "carrying on" is pretty much apt, to anyone who's driven a car with a frunk. I mean, no, it's not like it's going to solve world hunger or create billions in value for a new startup ecosystem. But a frunk really is a pretty great idea.

avalys 5y ago
The frunk in my Tesla Model 3 was too shallow to use to store anything (because the front motor was underneath) and the metal on the hood was so thin it felt like I was going to bend it every time I shut it. Pointless.
- sho_hn 5y ago
  Some cars with frunks also have issues with them being an additional vector for road noise to impact the cabin, which is already an issue in EVs due to nothing being masked by ICE noise. That's certainly a solvable engineering problem (and Tesla has made changes in successive generations to try and improve the situation, for example), but the insulation/padding required further impacts the usable space. In any case, the EQS likely has the quietest interior of any EV to date.
- ajross 5y ago
  Groceries? Jackets? Thanksgiving pot luck dishes you don't want to stink up the cabin? Muddy boots after a hike? Tire chains? Ice scraper? I guess everyone's different. To us it was a revelation.
  - avalys 5y ago
    Literally none of those would fit in the front trunk of my Model 3, except the ice scraper. See this pic: https://twitter.com/model3owners/status/891361384658763777 https://twitter.com/model3owners/status/891361384658763777 and note that it is shallower up front - that bag is just a few inches tall and it is nearly level with the latch. The fact that the shape is irregular, and the hood metal is so thin, also increases the chance you will accidentally bend the hood by trying to close it on an object that doesn't fit.
    - ajross 5y ago
      Literally all of them have gone in my Y, which isn't more than an inch or two deeper. Honestly you're overstating this. If you didn't like it you didn't like it, but don't tell me you can't get useful stuff in there.
      - avalys 5y ago
        My practical experience owning a Model 3 for three years was the frunk was too shallow and irregularly-shaped for me to ever bother trying to put anything in there. Thus, the frunk was, in practice, useless. That is what I'm telling you. Yes, if you decide that you absolutely must put something in the frunk, you certainly can. It obviously has a non-zero volume. But in all circumstances I found it more convenient to put things in the rear trunk, the rear footwells, or the (super useful) storage area under the rear trunk floor. I thought the Model 3 was a fantastic car by the way. I loved it. I just thought the frunk was a useless novelty. (The frunk in my Porsche Boxster, on the other hand, is deep and rectangular and very useful, in part because the engine is in the rear).
- dreamcompiler 5y ago
  Yes the metal is thin which is why Tesla advises not slamming it but rather letting it down gently and then pushing it closed with the palm of your hand. My Model Y frunk is where I keep a variety of charging cables, adapters, extension cords, tools etc so I can charge from just about any source of electricity on long road trips. Plus a tire inflator, windshield squeegee, and a portable 12v Li-Ion jumper box (so I can help other cars and it's also very handy when camping). All that fits in my frunk with a bit of room to spare.