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Yes. Some sectors of society argue that this is on purpose. The Coddling of the American Mind talks about a sliver of this. You can find articles [0] that talk
by all2 5y ago
Yes. Some sectors of society argue that this is on purpose. The Coddling of the American Mind talks about a sliver of this. You can find articles [0] that talk about infiltration of ideologies that destroy people's reasoning capabilities. You can find quotes from those in the US education's past [1], [2] that talk about their vision for students of the future. All that to say, there's a sector of the conservative right that sees something sinister and they've been shouting about it for a half century.
[0] https://www.worldviewweekend.com/worldviewpedia/transcript/john-dewey-1859-1952-father-modern-education https://www.worldviewweekend.com/worldviewpedia/transcript/j...
[1] https://steelonsteel.com/quotes-from-progressive-elites/ https://steelonsteel.com/quotes-from-progressive-elites/
[2] https://nwvstore.com/product/weapons-of-mass-instruction/ https://nwvstore.com/product/weapons-of-mass-instruction/
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Some quotes for the curious:
From [0]:
John Dewey, Karl Marx, Aldous Huxley, B. F. Skinner, and Benjamin Bloom were interested in a student’s academic achievement only if it would in some way benefit the State. Before a student's cognitive knowledge could be used to its full potential, however, the student's attitudes, values, feelings, and beliefs must conform to that of the State. In his book, My Pedagogic Creed, John Dewey explains:
"I believe the true center of correlation on the school subjects is not science, nor literature, nor history, nor geography, but the child's social activities. . . . I believe that the school is primarily a social institution. . . . The teacher's business is simply to determine, on the basis of the larger experience and riper wisdom, how the discipline of life shall come to the child. . . . All these questions of the grading of the child and his promotion should be determined by reference to the same standard. Examinations are of use only so far as they test the child's fitness for social life."
From [1]:
Education is thus a most powerful ally of humanism, and every American public school is a school of humanism. What can the theistic Sunday schools, meeting for an hour once a week, teaching only a fraction of the children, do to stem the tide of a five-day program of humanistic teaching?
-Charles.F. Potter: (1930)
In the New Order, Socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of schools, universities, churches and the media by transforming the consciousness of society…
-Antonio Gramsci (1915)
From [2]:
John Taylor Gatto’s Weapons of Mass Instruction focuses on mechanisms of familiar schooling which cripple imagination, discourage critical thinking, and create a false view of learning as a by-product of rote-memorization drills. Gatto’s earlier book, Dumbing Us Down, put the now-famous expression of the title in common use worldwide. Weapons of Mass Instruction promises to add another chilling metaphor to the brief against schooling.
- nonameiguess 5y agoWhy on earth would this have a global impact? US education policy only directly affects 3/8 of a percent of the world population (less really, since this assumes away the existence of private and charter schools) and it also varies by state. Also, according to the abstract, the US actually sustained positive gains longer than other OECD nations, except South Korea.
- spacemadness 5y agoBecause some people on HN will use any excuse to post right-wing propaganda.
- all2 5y agoI'm curious as to how quoting people is propaganda? In essence my goal was to say "this is what a sector of the population thinks, here's some quotes showing why they think that". Surely there is merit in sharing conclusions and reasoning for those conclusions?
- Apocryphon 5y agoWhat puts these personages in the same sector other than some superficial correlation in views as illustrated by pithy quotes rather than actual policies advanced? To group Dewey, Marx, and Huxley is completely fatuous, as well as pairing humanism with socialism. And what is the conclusion based on these quotes? This is begging the question. As Voltaire said, "A witty saying proves nothing."
- all2 5y agoI've been pondering your reply since I saw it yesterday. I'm bothered a great deal by "bumper sticker politics", or the "reducto ad absurdum" that seems to have taken over most political conversations. Aside from a master's thesis, I'm unsure as to how I ought to address the philosophical claims made by the above authors.