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Kissinger is known for his war crimes and Nobel Peace Prize. Being associated with this fraud is not a stain on his reputation at all. They joined because they

Kissinger is known for his war crimes and Nobel Peace Prize. Being associated with this fraud is not a stain on his reputation at all. They joined because they thought they were going to make a lot of money. Kissinger also has the fame of being the first Nobel Peace Prize recipient to bomb another Nobel Peace Prize recipient: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/doctors-without-borders-bombing_n_5615690ce4b021e856d33d51 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/doctors-without-borders-bombi... More on Kissinger war crimes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial_of_Henry_Kissinger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial_of_Henry_Kissinger

ineedasername 5y ago
Don't get me wrong, I'm not denying his brutal play of realpolitik game or any of his awful failures. (Also the Nobel Peace Prize has become pretty meaningless. I usually wonder what skeletons will come out of the closets of any recipients--Hitchens had some bad things to say about Mother Teressa too.) I'm talking about his name recognition, and most importantly his influence & connections. I'm sure he'd rather be remembered for his work with the Soviet Union & China.
- avgcorrection 5y ago
  “Brutal play of realpolitik game” as if committing war crimes is some kind of tough-nailed, pragmatic style of leadership.
  - ineedasername 5y ago
    tough-nailed, pragmatic style of leadership. That's a rough definition of realpolitik. Pragmatism over ideals or morals is baked into the concept.
    - avgcorrection 5y ago
      Yes, your praise has been noted.
      - ineedasername 5y ago
        I don't understand your comment. I didn't praise anything, I affirmed the definition of a word. Anything else you got from my comment came from your own reading (too much) into what I wrote.
rc_mob 5y ago
I'm fairly sure that Hitler and some other really bad peoples have won a NPP. They didn't bomb any other winners?
- ineedasername 5y ago
  If winning the prize is somewhat meaningless and awful people won the award then bombing a winner is not, by itself, a significant factor in judging the event. (well, not more significant than the fact of the bombing to begin with). Heck, if we're choosing awful moments in Peace Prize history, one winner bombing another winner isn't even unique.
samstave 5y ago
Kissenger is one of the most prolific war criminals of the last 100 years, he should be studied EXTENSIVELY and here is why; he was / is a meta-dictator/authoritarian -- This MF was able to kill MILLIONS through his /INFLUENCE/ Just as Madeline ALbright, the Bush Cabal, the Clintons -- but this piece of shit needs to be mentally dissected so we know how to prevent such abhorrant people / actions from gaining power. While in the cold war, such thinking was important for determining / predicting / preparing for insane scenarios... still this is a psychopath thinking of these things. Kissenger is one of the most eveil people (along with albright)

ineedasername 5y ago

Don't get me wrong, I'm not denying his brutal play of realpolitik game or any of his awful failures. (Also the Nobel Peace Prize has become pretty meaningless. I usually wonder what skeletons will come out of the closets of any recipients--Hitchens had some bad things to say about Mother Teressa too.) I'm talking about his name recognition, and most importantly his influence & connections. I'm sure he'd rather be remembered for his work with the Soviet Union & China.

avgcorrection 5y ago
“Brutal play of realpolitik game” as if committing war crimes is some kind of tough-nailed, pragmatic style of leadership.
- ineedasername 5y ago
  tough-nailed, pragmatic style of leadership. That's a rough definition of realpolitik. Pragmatism over ideals or morals is baked into the concept.
  - avgcorrection 5y ago
    Yes, your praise has been noted.
    - ineedasername 5y ago
      I don't understand your comment. I didn't praise anything, I affirmed the definition of a word. Anything else you got from my comment came from your own reading (too much) into what I wrote.

rc_mob 5y ago

I'm fairly sure that Hitler and some other really bad peoples have won a NPP. They didn't bomb any other winners?

ineedasername 5y ago
If winning the prize is somewhat meaningless and awful people won the award then bombing a winner is not, by itself, a significant factor in judging the event. (well, not more significant than the fact of the bombing to begin with). Heck, if we're choosing awful moments in Peace Prize history, one winner bombing another winner isn't even unique.

samstave 5y ago

Kissenger is one of the most prolific war criminals of the last 100 years, he should be studied EXTENSIVELY and here is why; he was / is a meta-dictator/authoritarian -- This MF was able to kill MILLIONS through his /INFLUENCE/ Just as Madeline ALbright, the Bush Cabal, the Clintons -- but this piece of shit needs to be mentally dissected so we know how to prevent such abhorrant people / actions from gaining power. While in the cold war, such thinking was important for determining / predicting / preparing for insane scenarios... still this is a psychopath thinking of these things. Kissenger is one of the most eveil people (along with albright)