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I think the part about JP anime is true. Anime culture seems widespread among young people, globally. I'm certain that anyone reading this has heard of someone

I think the part about JP anime is true. Anime culture seems widespread among young people, globally. I'm certain that anyone reading this has heard of someone that watched or watches anime and then became a tourist in Japan, or outright moved to Japan. That's some pretty powerful stuff. I think the effect is larger than just Japan, or even Korea, and more of an Asian thing.. that is where most of the population growth is happening after all. Chinese anime is usually piss poor, but their industry has been getting massive and concerted injections of funding as of late, to the point where CN regular anime production quality exceeds JP anime movies. Crazy growth in those industries.

riskable 5y ago
There's nothing inherently poor about the production/animation quality of Chinese animations (donghua). The animation/art can be just as good as most anime. In fact, a lot of high-quality animes outsource much of their production to Chinese animation studios. The real problem with donghua (IMHO) is the stories. Ugh. Even when a donghua is about someone getting reincarnated in another world (like a Japanese isekai) it's all the same old stuff about spirits, martial arts, and cultivation (aka xianxia). So rather than answer the question, "what if?" the Chinese isekai equivalent is more like, "what if we told the same old story but changed the scenery?" It annoys me for the same reason that certain scifi/fantasy shows/movies annoy me: They're just drama, "in space" or drama, "in the future" or drama, "in another world" with basically zero plot elements relating to the differences in technology, science, magic, etc. No one is exploring the possibilities or problems that certain differences could entail. They're not even weird! Which is another common appealing point of anime--even when the basic plot is the same as many other shows (e.g. "the hero has a shield permanently stuck to their arm that they can't remove? haha; what‽"). As soon as I see that cultivation is a major element of the show it's akin to watching an anime and being like, "Oh a demon lord? How creative." =)
- redanddead 5y ago
  >There's nothing inherently poor about the production/animation quality of Chinese animations (donghua). The animation/art can be just as good as most anime. In fact, a lot of high-quality animes outsource much of their production to Chinese animation studios. Oh, I see! >"what if we told the same old story but changed the scenery?" Why do you think Chinese audiences consume these stories so much? >"in another world" with basically zero plot elements relating to the differences in technology, science, magic, etc. No one is exploring the possibilities or problems that certain differences could entail. Right, like if we had futuristic tech, like future medicine for example, and disease or aging didn't exist or whatever, the way we live life wouldn't be the same as we do. Maybe schools or academies as we view them now wouldn't exist. It reminds me of this image, where people in the past were predicting future tech and just superimposed new tech on old methods https://teachingandlearninginhighered.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/school-year-2000.jpg https://teachingandlearninginhighered.files.wordpress.com/20... Seems to be a common problem across cultures >As soon as I see that cultivation is a major element of the show it's akin to watching an anime and being like, "Oh a demon lord? How creative." Cultivation as in agriculture? Oh wow
  - gloryjulio 5y ago
    I will post the same reply about the story: The problem is the censorship. China gov is tightening the grip on censorship and it's hard to write good story now. And this is not limited to anime. For example, the movie Farewell My Concubine would not be possible due to the story about gay and Cultural Revelation.
  - riskable 5y ago
    > Cultivation as in agriculture? No, "cultivation" as in Xianxia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xianxia_(genre) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xianxia_(genre)
    - redanddead 5y ago
      Characteristics Protagonists are usually "cultivators" (修心者 xiūxīnzhě, 修士 xiūshì, or 修仙者 xiūxiānzhě) who seek to become immortal beings called xian. Along the way, they attain eternal life, supernatural powers, and incredible levels of strength. The fictional cultivation practiced in xianxia is heavily based on the real-life meditation practice qigong. Wow!
- gloryjulio 5y ago
  The problem is the censorship. China gov is tightening the grip on censorship and it's hard to write good story now. And this is not limited to anime. For example, the movie Farewell My Concubine would not be possible due to the story about gay and Cultural Revelation.

riskable 5y ago

There's nothing inherently poor about the production/animation quality of Chinese animations (donghua). The animation/art can be just as good as most anime. In fact, a lot of high-quality animes outsource much of their production to Chinese animation studios. The real problem with donghua (IMHO) is the stories. Ugh. Even when a donghua is about someone getting reincarnated in another world (like a Japanese isekai) it's all the same old stuff about spirits, martial arts, and cultivation (aka xianxia). So rather than answer the question, "what if?" the Chinese isekai equivalent is more like, "what if we told the same old story but changed the scenery?" It annoys me for the same reason that certain scifi/fantasy shows/movies annoy me: They're just drama, "in space" or drama, "in the future" or drama, "in another world" with basically zero plot elements relating to the differences in technology, science, magic, etc. No one is exploring the possibilities or problems that certain differences could entail. They're not even weird! Which is another common appealing point of anime--even when the basic plot is the same as many other shows (e.g. "the hero has a shield permanently stuck to their arm that they can't remove? haha; what‽"). As soon as I see that cultivation is a major element of the show it's akin to watching an anime and being like, "Oh a demon lord? How creative." =)

redanddead 5y ago
>There's nothing inherently poor about the production/animation quality of Chinese animations (donghua). The animation/art can be just as good as most anime. In fact, a lot of high-quality animes outsource much of their production to Chinese animation studios. Oh, I see! >"what if we told the same old story but changed the scenery?" Why do you think Chinese audiences consume these stories so much? >"in another world" with basically zero plot elements relating to the differences in technology, science, magic, etc. No one is exploring the possibilities or problems that certain differences could entail. Right, like if we had futuristic tech, like future medicine for example, and disease or aging didn't exist or whatever, the way we live life wouldn't be the same as we do. Maybe schools or academies as we view them now wouldn't exist. It reminds me of this image, where people in the past were predicting future tech and just superimposed new tech on old methods https://teachingandlearninginhighered.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/school-year-2000.jpg https://teachingandlearninginhighered.files.wordpress.com/20... Seems to be a common problem across cultures >As soon as I see that cultivation is a major element of the show it's akin to watching an anime and being like, "Oh a demon lord? How creative." Cultivation as in agriculture? Oh wow
- gloryjulio 5y ago
  I will post the same reply about the story: The problem is the censorship. China gov is tightening the grip on censorship and it's hard to write good story now. And this is not limited to anime. For example, the movie Farewell My Concubine would not be possible due to the story about gay and Cultural Revelation.
- riskable 5y ago
  > Cultivation as in agriculture? No, "cultivation" as in Xianxia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xianxia_(genre) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xianxia_(genre)
  - redanddead 5y ago
    Characteristics Protagonists are usually "cultivators" (修心者 xiūxīnzhě, 修士 xiūshì, or 修仙者 xiūxiānzhě) who seek to become immortal beings called xian. Along the way, they attain eternal life, supernatural powers, and incredible levels of strength. The fictional cultivation practiced in xianxia is heavily based on the real-life meditation practice qigong. Wow!
gloryjulio 5y ago
The problem is the censorship. China gov is tightening the grip on censorship and it's hard to write good story now. And this is not limited to anime. For example, the movie Farewell My Concubine would not be possible due to the story about gay and Cultural Revelation.