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> Every illness is unique, which means that all recoveries must also be in some sense unique. There is no one-size-fits-all to getting better. Brilliant!

hutzlibu 5y ago
It is very old wisdom, though. In the traditional art of healing with herbs, there were no strict formulas either. Like this plant for this sickness and this for that. It was usually a mixture always mixed for that one patients unique condition. I am pretty sure modern medicine knows that, too. That fine graining therapy to the individual provides better results. But that approach is simply too expensive as it requires much more time for every patient.
- agon88 5y ago
  Checkout the documentary 'Ayurveda: the art of being' by Pan Nalin. Very much speaks about this ancient tradition, how everything is energy and healing with herbs. Recommended.
  - tsimionescu 5y ago
    > how everything is energy and healing with herbs. Thanks for letting us know we should avoid this woo woo documentary!
- tsimionescu 5y ago
  > Like this plant for this sickness and this for that. It was usually a mixture always mixed for that one patients unique condition. Sure, and that's because they mostly had no idea what they were doing. If you have a bacterial infection today, you can take an antibiotic. If you have a dangerous viral infection, an anti-viral may help (though there are few of those). If you have a parasite, you get a very specific anti-parasite. And on and on: there are many many diseases for which we have specific, targeted remedies that work with very high accuracy - well over 99%. No woo woo plant energy "healing" achieves anything close to that.
  - hutzlibu 5y ago
    "No woo woo plant energy "healing" achieves anything close to that." Well, for starters, many medicines are just extraction of a plant or a synthesis of it. And they surely work, too. And no doubt modern medicine is very good at targeting very specific diseases. And if I would suffer from a specific bacteria and I am too weak, I surely take modern antibiotics as well. But the body is a very complex system - and there is the danger of only targeting symptoms and not solving the root cause. Than I would have just fought a symptom and messed up my digestion system, that might further harm myself. Traditional medicine had more the target of getting the whole system in order again. Removing the root causes for getting sick in the first place, or rather help the body achieve it to do on its own. And not make him dependant on pills for all eternity. In my perception, the systematic wholesome thinking is more and more replacing the old mechanistic approach in modern medicine and I like that.
    - watwut 5y ago
      > Well, for starters, many medicines are just extraction of a plant or a synthesis of it. And they surely work, to. Sure. And they are also completely different thing then was achievable from those herbs in times we talk about. Yes, in fact, modern medicine works better then 200 years ago.
- m_fayer 5y ago
  Modern medicine is hamstrung by nearly universal application of "evidence based medicine" - which started as a commendable approach but has been twisted into: "we diagnose A and then find therapy B with the most institutional buy-in, and if that fails or is inapplicable, we call the patient crazy and/or employ other tactics to make the patient go away". Especially in the age of complex and poorly understood chronic illness, doctors should guide the patient through a process of "clinical experimentation" while also counseling them to improve environmental and lifestyle factors. But western health systems are laughably underresourced for this. So they remain competent when it comes to cut-and-dry situations, and misery-makers elsewhere.
tsimionescu 5y ago
I am hoping this is sarcasm - the quoted phrase is trite and meaningless.
- birtoise 5y ago
KineticLensman 5y ago
> Every illness is unique, which means that all recoveries must also be in some sense unique. There is no one-size-fits-all to getting better When I had my cardiac arrest due to Ventricular Fibrillation, I was very glad that the bystanders immediately applied a generic off-the-shelf solution (CPR and a public defibrillator) and in doing so kept me alive without brain damage due to lack of oxygen. Rather than treating me as a unique individual who needed a tailored solution.

hutzlibu 5y ago

It is very old wisdom, though. In the traditional art of healing with herbs, there were no strict formulas either. Like this plant for this sickness and this for that. It was usually a mixture always mixed for that one patients unique condition. I am pretty sure modern medicine knows that, too. That fine graining therapy to the individual provides better results. But that approach is simply too expensive as it requires much more time for every patient.

agon88 5y ago
Checkout the documentary 'Ayurveda: the art of being' by Pan Nalin. Very much speaks about this ancient tradition, how everything is energy and healing with herbs. Recommended.
- tsimionescu 5y ago
  > how everything is energy and healing with herbs. Thanks for letting us know we should avoid this woo woo documentary!
tsimionescu 5y ago
> Like this plant for this sickness and this for that. It was usually a mixture always mixed for that one patients unique condition. Sure, and that's because they mostly had no idea what they were doing. If you have a bacterial infection today, you can take an antibiotic. If you have a dangerous viral infection, an anti-viral may help (though there are few of those). If you have a parasite, you get a very specific anti-parasite. And on and on: there are many many diseases for which we have specific, targeted remedies that work with very high accuracy - well over 99%. No woo woo plant energy "healing" achieves anything close to that.
- hutzlibu 5y ago
  "No woo woo plant energy "healing" achieves anything close to that." Well, for starters, many medicines are just extraction of a plant or a synthesis of it. And they surely work, too. And no doubt modern medicine is very good at targeting very specific diseases. And if I would suffer from a specific bacteria and I am too weak, I surely take modern antibiotics as well. But the body is a very complex system - and there is the danger of only targeting symptoms and not solving the root cause. Than I would have just fought a symptom and messed up my digestion system, that might further harm myself. Traditional medicine had more the target of getting the whole system in order again. Removing the root causes for getting sick in the first place, or rather help the body achieve it to do on its own. And not make him dependant on pills for all eternity. In my perception, the systematic wholesome thinking is more and more replacing the old mechanistic approach in modern medicine and I like that.
  - watwut 5y ago
    > Well, for starters, many medicines are just extraction of a plant or a synthesis of it. And they surely work, to. Sure. And they are also completely different thing then was achievable from those herbs in times we talk about. Yes, in fact, modern medicine works better then 200 years ago.
m_fayer 5y ago
Modern medicine is hamstrung by nearly universal application of "evidence based medicine" - which started as a commendable approach but has been twisted into: "we diagnose A and then find therapy B with the most institutional buy-in, and if that fails or is inapplicable, we call the patient crazy and/or employ other tactics to make the patient go away". Especially in the age of complex and poorly understood chronic illness, doctors should guide the patient through a process of "clinical experimentation" while also counseling them to improve environmental and lifestyle factors. But western health systems are laughably underresourced for this. So they remain competent when it comes to cut-and-dry situations, and misery-makers elsewhere.

tsimionescu 5y ago

I am hoping this is sarcasm - the quoted phrase is trite and meaningless.

birtoise 5y ago

KineticLensman 5y ago

> Every illness is unique, which means that all recoveries must also be in some sense unique. There is no one-size-fits-all to getting better When I had my cardiac arrest due to Ventricular Fibrillation, I was very glad that the bystanders immediately applied a generic off-the-shelf solution (CPR and a public defibrillator) and in doing so kept me alive without brain damage due to lack of oxygen. Rather than treating me as a unique individual who needed a tailored solution.