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She effectively stole millions. From people who could easily afford to lose it and who should have known better. None of the people she defrauded have a materi

by dagw 5y ago

She effectively stole millions. From people who could easily afford to lose it and who should have known better. None of the people she defrauded have a materially worse quality of life than they did before. Her biggest crime was making rich people look stupid, and they REALLY don't like that.

spaniard89277 5y ago
Money that could have gone elsewhere where there wasn't fraud. I don't get this apologetic comment.
- dagw 5y ago
  I don't get this apologetic comment. The crime she was convicted of isn't a crime you should spend effectively the rest of your life in jail for. It's as simple as that.
  - CRConrad 5y ago
    > The crime she was convicted of isn't a crime you should spend effectively the rest of your life in jail for. It's as simple as that. Not if you're a young(-ish) and relatively good-looking female billionaire CEO, at least. Apparently, judging from the fact that I haven't seen all you people spouting this line on the barricades fighting for more lenient sentences for ordinary lowlife ugly middle-aged male fraudsters. That's how simple it is.
dayvid 5y ago
In the book Bad Blood, people wanted to come out to expose Theranos and she had the most expensive law firm in CA basically threaden to sue people into oblivion. The person who spoke to the WSJ journalist who broke the story and put his name on the record did so because his dad mortgaged their house to deal with legal implications. Before that there were patients, doctors, employees etc. bullied by the company into submission.
selfhoster11 5y ago
> From people who could easily afford to lose it and who should have known better. Who in turn gained their money from trickle-up economics targeting the working and middle classes, in all likelihood.
theglocksaint 5y ago
Really? What about the literal stalking by her legal team? Two people directly involved in the company were suicidal due to the environment she created, one of whom did end up committing suicide.
- dagw 5y ago
  Apparently not a serious crime it would seem, since no prosecutor seems to care. It is very clear that in the current court system defrauding rich people is a much worse crime that 'accidentally' killing a few poor people. Had she gotten drunk and killed someone with her car, she would be looking at a much lighter sentence.
jklinger410 5y ago
This is the inverse of implying the people Kyle Rittenhouse deserved to die because of their criminal history. It does not matter at all that they could afford to lose it. Her biggest crime was the one she just got convicted of, being a fraud and lying for profit. One side of this conversation is unnecessarily harsh, I get that, but the other side of this conversation is playing mental gymnastics to try and downplay what she did. Both are wrong.

by dagw 5y ago

spaniard89277 5y ago

Money that could have gone elsewhere where there wasn't fraud. I don't get this apologetic comment.

dagw 5y ago
I don't get this apologetic comment. The crime she was convicted of isn't a crime you should spend effectively the rest of your life in jail for. It's as simple as that.
- CRConrad 5y ago
  > The crime she was convicted of isn't a crime you should spend effectively the rest of your life in jail for. It's as simple as that. Not if you're a young(-ish) and relatively good-looking female billionaire CEO, at least. Apparently, judging from the fact that I haven't seen all you people spouting this line on the barricades fighting for more lenient sentences for ordinary lowlife ugly middle-aged male fraudsters. That's how simple it is.

dayvid 5y ago

In the book Bad Blood, people wanted to come out to expose Theranos and she had the most expensive law firm in CA basically threaden to sue people into oblivion. The person who spoke to the WSJ journalist who broke the story and put his name on the record did so because his dad mortgaged their house to deal with legal implications. Before that there were patients, doctors, employees etc. bullied by the company into submission.

selfhoster11 5y ago

> From people who could easily afford to lose it and who should have known better. Who in turn gained their money from trickle-up economics targeting the working and middle classes, in all likelihood.

theglocksaint 5y ago

Really? What about the literal stalking by her legal team? Two people directly involved in the company were suicidal due to the environment she created, one of whom did end up committing suicide.

dagw 5y ago
Apparently not a serious crime it would seem, since no prosecutor seems to care. It is very clear that in the current court system defrauding rich people is a much worse crime that 'accidentally' killing a few poor people. Had she gotten drunk and killed someone with her car, she would be looking at a much lighter sentence.

jklinger410 5y ago

This is the inverse of implying the people Kyle Rittenhouse deserved to die because of their criminal history. It does not matter at all that they could afford to lose it. Her biggest crime was the one she just got convicted of, being a fraud and lying for profit. One side of this conversation is unnecessarily harsh, I get that, but the other side of this conversation is playing mental gymnastics to try and downplay what she did. Both are wrong.