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Minor correction: it's also "subtil" in Portuguese.

by rjtavares 5y ago

tsimionescu 5y ago
Google translate must have failed me here... It claims "sutil".
- rjtavares 5y ago
  Turns out in Brazillian Portuguese the form "Sutil" is more common than "Subtil". In Portugal there's only "Subtil". So it didn't fail you exactly, and I was unaware of that difference.
- qayxc 5y ago
  > Google translate must have failed me here And there's your mistake: don't use Google translate for single words. Use a dictionary for that - it'll tell you that both variants exist and even denotes that "sutil" is the Brazilian one :) Single words don't carry enough context for statistics-based approaches like Google translate and even then, Google translate is not even very good compared to alternatives like deepl.com.
  - tsimionescu 5y ago
    Interestingly, the first translation dictionaries I tried also showed me "sutil" (and only this form). I had to actually search for Portuguese language dictionaries to even see the form "subtil". Probably happens because Brazil has so many more Portuguese speakers than Portugal? https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english-portuguese/subtle https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english-portugue... https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english-portuguese/subtle https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english-portugu... These two do mention it, but as the "secondary" form: https://www.linguee.com/english-portuguese/search?source=auto&query=subtle https://www.linguee.com/english-portuguese/search?source=aut... https://en.bab.la/dictionary/english-portuguese/subtle https://en.bab.la/dictionary/english-portuguese/subtle
    - rjtavares 5y ago
      > Probably happens because Brazil has so many more Portuguese speakers than Portugal? Definitely. Similar to how most websites (even European ones) use American English instead of British English. Interestingly, Portuguese children are adopting a lot of Brazilian Portuguese words now because of Youtube (since Brazilian content is so much more common than Portuguese content).

Minor correction: it's also "subtil" in Portuguese.

tsimionescu 5y ago

Google translate must have failed me here... It claims "sutil".

rjtavares 5y ago
Turns out in Brazillian Portuguese the form "Sutil" is more common than "Subtil". In Portugal there's only "Subtil". So it didn't fail you exactly, and I was unaware of that difference.
qayxc 5y ago
> Google translate must have failed me here And there's your mistake: don't use Google translate for single words. Use a dictionary for that - it'll tell you that both variants exist and even denotes that "sutil" is the Brazilian one :) Single words don't carry enough context for statistics-based approaches like Google translate and even then, Google translate is not even very good compared to alternatives like deepl.com.
- tsimionescu 5y ago
  Interestingly, the first translation dictionaries I tried also showed me "sutil" (and only this form). I had to actually search for Portuguese language dictionaries to even see the form "subtil". Probably happens because Brazil has so many more Portuguese speakers than Portugal? https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english-portuguese/subtle https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english-portugue... https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english-portuguese/subtle https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english-portugu... These two do mention it, but as the "secondary" form: https://www.linguee.com/english-portuguese/search?source=auto&query=subtle https://www.linguee.com/english-portuguese/search?source=aut... https://en.bab.la/dictionary/english-portuguese/subtle https://en.bab.la/dictionary/english-portuguese/subtle
  - rjtavares 5y ago
    > Probably happens because Brazil has so many more Portuguese speakers than Portugal? Definitely. Similar to how most websites (even European ones) use American English instead of British English. Interestingly, Portuguese children are adopting a lot of Brazilian Portuguese words now because of Youtube (since Brazilian content is so much more common than Portuguese content).