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Long term you're probably right, but I think tunneling services[0] like Cloudflare tunnel or my own boringproxy are going to be what we use for the next 10 year
by anderspitman 5y ago
Long term you're probably right, but I think tunneling services[0] like Cloudflare tunnel or my own boringproxy are going to be what we use for the next 10 years or so.
We're going to have to prove that self-hosting is useful before people start demanding ipv6, public static IPs, and decent upload speeds from their ISPs.
[0]: https://github.com/anderspitman/awesome-tunneling https://github.com/anderspitman/awesome-tunneling
- bullen 5y agoTunneling increases latency. Seen that the final medium/media is a 3D action MMO we don't have time for that latency.
- mmcgaha 5y agoI have a little site that I moved behind cloudflare. The dead simple https is nice but I have a page with a gallery of 140 images and it loads so much slower than before the move. Granted I am not paying anything for the service and I don't plan to change it back so this is just an observation.
- bullen 5y agoHTTPS is a waste of electricity.
- anderspitman 5y agoThat's a hot take. Do you never do anything on the web which you don't want your ISP to have full access to? That said, I agree HTTPS is too complicated to set up, even with ACME/LetsEncrypt. I wish you could just set up your own certificate with the public key in your DNS records. But that requires DNSSEC/DoH or similar.
- bullen 5y agoMost ISPs in Sweden have root certificates. I use this for security: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2289 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2289 Trying to avoid MitM attacks from your ISPs is really an exercise i futility, and a really expensive one at that, both energy and timevise. HTTP, DNS and SMTP are the only protocols you need. Small web uses small protocols, big web uses big protocols.
- anderspitman 5y agoHow much traffic does the gallery get? Unless you have enough people in a given area hitting the site enough for the Cloudflare PoP in that area to have a warm cache, the first request for each image is going to be slower than going directly to the origin server.
- mmcgaha 5y agoIt is a site for a game that died ten years ago so it gets more bots than people at this point. Last month my cloudflare email said they saved me 22.7% of 91.69MB. So you are correct that the cache is never warm.
- anderspitman 5y agoFor that use case, yep totally agree. But there are a lot of use cases that an extra hop through a proxy that's physically near the origin server still provides very good performance.