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> Guys, you don’t need to use opensea to buy/sell NFTs. That’s the magic. It’s just one NFT exchange. This is also true of selling on Amazon, but being banned

by smt88 5y ago

> Guys, you don’t need to use opensea to buy/sell NFTs. That’s the magic. It’s just one NFT exchange. This is also true of selling on Amazon, but being banned from Amazon (or even just losing search ranking) also kills lots of small business. It's also true of email, and yet you essentially can't use email anymore if Gmail decides to block you. There can be de facto centralization, even if a technology does not require centralization. Humans really like centralization -- it's convenient.

renewiltord 5y ago
Hmm, well, that was baked-in intent so I don’t quite get the problem. Yes, you could make a marketplace so popular that everyone disregards products not in it. That’s not “libertarianism for me, not for thee”. That’s literally “libertarianism for both of us”.
- skinnymuch 5y ago
  Your original point was you can use something else. The commenter said you can’t and has examples on top of opensea. You didn’t respond to that retort. You brought up different things.
  - renewiltord 5y ago
    I suppose I imagined that we were working in the universe where the article was relevant and not tabula rasa. Granted if we were discussing tabula rasa, my response might be non sequitur.
    - skinnymuch 5y ago
      Tabula rasa doesn’t work here. What has happened is what almost always happens. A status quo quickly emerges. Usually because of previous status quos. In this case opensea dominates. Some semblance of mostly centralization and a few encumbers was always going to happen. It’s not important that it’s opensea. What is relevant is this sort of power dynamic and status quo was bound to happen. It almost always happens. You brought up that if others say it’s the real world reinvented they are missing some crucial predictive elements. The real world’s status quo and power dynamics are what are at play here. That doesn’t get reinvented. That continues on.

by smt88 5y ago

renewiltord 5y ago

Hmm, well, that was baked-in intent so I don’t quite get the problem. Yes, you could make a marketplace so popular that everyone disregards products not in it. That’s not “libertarianism for me, not for thee”. That’s literally “libertarianism for both of us”.

skinnymuch 5y ago
Your original point was you can use something else. The commenter said you can’t and has examples on top of opensea. You didn’t respond to that retort. You brought up different things.
- renewiltord 5y ago
  I suppose I imagined that we were working in the universe where the article was relevant and not tabula rasa. Granted if we were discussing tabula rasa, my response might be non sequitur.
  - skinnymuch 5y ago
    Tabula rasa doesn’t work here. What has happened is what almost always happens. A status quo quickly emerges. Usually because of previous status quos. In this case opensea dominates. Some semblance of mostly centralization and a few encumbers was always going to happen. It’s not important that it’s opensea. What is relevant is this sort of power dynamic and status quo was bound to happen. It almost always happens. You brought up that if others say it’s the real world reinvented they are missing some crucial predictive elements. The real world’s status quo and power dynamics are what are at play here. That doesn’t get reinvented. That continues on.