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This is not at all how journalism works. Journalism requires editorial freedom, who pays the bills should have literally no impact on reporting; this is true e

by zacmps 5y ago

This is not at all how journalism works. Journalism requires editorial freedom, who pays the bills should have literally no impact on reporting; this is true even when with meta coverage of the publication or owner in question. Anything else is not journalism.

908B64B197 5y ago
> Journalism requires editorial freedom, who pays the bills should have literally no impact on reporting And yet we all know that's not what really happens.
olivermarks 5y ago
'In journalism, a hack writer is deemed to operate as a "mercenary" or "pen for hire", expressing their client's political opinions in pamphlets or newspaper articles'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hack_writer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hack_writer
pyuser583 5y ago
Kind of … more and more journalism outfits are going towards non-profit status. That usually involves some sort of ideological position: National Review is neoconservative, Jacobite is far left, n+1 is progressive. That’s not really what we usually mean by news, but that’s the mode being adopted by many news outlets.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > That’s not really what we usually mean by news, but that’s the mode being adopted by many news outlets. National Review was founded in 1955, and is the only one of the examples you cite that even pretends to have a journalistic component (though its overtly mainly commentary); Jacobin is overtly commentary, not news; n+1 is a literary, rather than journalistic, outlet. That's not really good examples of a novel trend in journalism.
  - pyuser583 5y ago
    I didn’t give any examples of for-profits that converted to non-profits. My examples are expository, not argumentative.
- olivermarks 5y ago
  The UK Guardian is an interesting example of a highly ideological oped/news spin organization that relies heavily on the readers it influences to fund itself, which has been quite successful recently after hemorrhaging cash and readers previously under its 'run by a trust' model. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Trust_Limited https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Trust_Limited

by zacmps 5y ago

908B64B197 5y ago

> Journalism requires editorial freedom, who pays the bills should have literally no impact on reporting And yet we all know that's not what really happens.

olivermarks 5y ago

'In journalism, a hack writer is deemed to operate as a "mercenary" or "pen for hire", expressing their client's political opinions in pamphlets or newspaper articles'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hack_writer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hack_writer

pyuser583 5y ago

Kind of … more and more journalism outfits are going towards non-profit status. That usually involves some sort of ideological position: National Review is neoconservative, Jacobite is far left, n+1 is progressive. That’s not really what we usually mean by news, but that’s the mode being adopted by many news outlets.

dragonwriter 5y ago
> That’s not really what we usually mean by news, but that’s the mode being adopted by many news outlets. National Review was founded in 1955, and is the only one of the examples you cite that even pretends to have a journalistic component (though its overtly mainly commentary); Jacobin is overtly commentary, not news; n+1 is a literary, rather than journalistic, outlet. That's not really good examples of a novel trend in journalism.
- pyuser583 5y ago
  I didn’t give any examples of for-profits that converted to non-profits. My examples are expository, not argumentative.
olivermarks 5y ago
The UK Guardian is an interesting example of a highly ideological oped/news spin organization that relies heavily on the readers it influences to fund itself, which has been quite successful recently after hemorrhaging cash and readers previously under its 'run by a trust' model. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Trust_Limited https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Trust_Limited