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Genuine side-question (that ages me a bit): Eggs were ever considered unhealthy?

kurthr 5y ago
Oh yes, they had cholesterol (and they still do)... it's just that they CAN be a part of a healthy diet, while breakfast cereal arguably can't no matter how many vitamins you add to it. You'll still find plenty of egg white only things out there in the dairy aisle or at your local diner... since it was the dreaded yolk with all the fat (and vitamins and cholesterol) that was supposed to be bad.
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- jacobmischka 5y ago
  It's less about the fat per se, egg whites are drastically lower in calories and still relatively tasty if prepared well.
  - tayo42 5y ago
    an egg is already 70-90 calories how much lower do you need it to be? 3 egg meal at less then 300 calories its pretty good
    - jacobmischka 5y ago
      Well, it's less about the total amount of calories as it is about the amount per volume of food. 300kcal of egg whites is just a lot more food in size, and some people (myself included) just enjoy eating larger quantities and are willing to sacrifice some quality in taste. Also, if you're paying attention to protein intake then 300kcal of egg whites is also a lot more protein than the equivalent amount of whole eggs. The fat isn't inherently bad, but there are tradeoffs that some people prefer.
- ncmncm 5y ago
  And.... it turns out that fat is totally harmless. Saturated fat, anyway. What we were blaming on regular fat turns out to have been caused by sugar and trans-fat. Trans fat, or hydrogenated fat, was finally (almost!) banned in the US in 2017. (Although you can still buy Crisco!) Trans fat was invented in the 19th century as a way to get people eating cottonseed oil margarine. When fat got blamed for what sugar was doing, they pretended hydrogenated cottonseed oil, and later other hydrogenated oils, were not at fault. Even people who have learned that sugar is poison often still believe there is something wrong with fat. Eggs have plenty of cholesterol. But there is nothing wrong with dietary cholesterol. Your liver makes it for you all day long. Blood cholesterol measurements are about markers for circulatory disease that is not caused by cholesterol.
burke 5y ago
They’re a relatively high source of dietary cholesterol. When we first figured out that serum cholesterol is correlated with cardio problems, we basically assumed that dietary cholesterol must be bad. We’ve since figured out that dietary cholesterol is a much less significant driver of serum cholesterol than one would naively assume.
- thathndude 5y ago
  What this guy said. Don’t you remember the egg whites only phase?!
  - Vrondi 5y ago
    That was part of the 1990s "fat is evil" thing.
- bigyellow 5y ago
  > We’ve since figured out that dietary cholesterol is a much less significant driver of serum cholesterol than one would naively assume. I challenge you to find any study which supports this conclusion that is not funded by egg industry.
  - ncmncm 5y ago
    Every single thing you have posted was an attempt to muddy the water. Enough already.
    - bigyellow 5y ago
      Hilarious. That's a "no, I cannot" then.
      - ncmncm 5y ago
        Making up shit to post does not improve the world or your reputation.
thizzbuzz 5y ago
rgbrenner 5y ago
"The Fifty Year Rehabilitation of the Egg" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4632449/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4632449/

Oh yes, they had cholesterol (and they still do)... it's just that they CAN be a part of a healthy diet, while breakfast cereal arguably can't no matter how many vitamins you add to it. You'll still find plenty of egg white only things out there in the dairy aisle or at your local diner... since it was the dreaded yolk with all the fat (and vitamins and cholesterol) that was supposed to be bad.

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jacobmischka 5y ago
It's less about the fat per se, egg whites are drastically lower in calories and still relatively tasty if prepared well.
- tayo42 5y ago
  an egg is already 70-90 calories how much lower do you need it to be? 3 egg meal at less then 300 calories its pretty good
  - jacobmischka 5y ago
    Well, it's less about the total amount of calories as it is about the amount per volume of food. 300kcal of egg whites is just a lot more food in size, and some people (myself included) just enjoy eating larger quantities and are willing to sacrifice some quality in taste. Also, if you're paying attention to protein intake then 300kcal of egg whites is also a lot more protein than the equivalent amount of whole eggs. The fat isn't inherently bad, but there are tradeoffs that some people prefer.
ncmncm 5y ago
And.... it turns out that fat is totally harmless. Saturated fat, anyway. What we were blaming on regular fat turns out to have been caused by sugar and trans-fat. Trans fat, or hydrogenated fat, was finally (almost!) banned in the US in 2017. (Although you can still buy Crisco!) Trans fat was invented in the 19th century as a way to get people eating cottonseed oil margarine. When fat got blamed for what sugar was doing, they pretended hydrogenated cottonseed oil, and later other hydrogenated oils, were not at fault. Even people who have learned that sugar is poison often still believe there is something wrong with fat. Eggs have plenty of cholesterol. But there is nothing wrong with dietary cholesterol. Your liver makes it for you all day long. Blood cholesterol measurements are about markers for circulatory disease that is not caused by cholesterol.

burke 5y ago

They’re a relatively high source of dietary cholesterol. When we first figured out that serum cholesterol is correlated with cardio problems, we basically assumed that dietary cholesterol must be bad. We’ve since figured out that dietary cholesterol is a much less significant driver of serum cholesterol than one would naively assume.

thathndude 5y ago
What this guy said. Don’t you remember the egg whites only phase?!
- Vrondi 5y ago
  That was part of the 1990s "fat is evil" thing.
bigyellow 5y ago
> We’ve since figured out that dietary cholesterol is a much less significant driver of serum cholesterol than one would naively assume. I challenge you to find any study which supports this conclusion that is not funded by egg industry.
- ncmncm 5y ago
  Every single thing you have posted was an attempt to muddy the water. Enough already.
  - bigyellow 5y ago
    Hilarious. That's a "no, I cannot" then.
    - ncmncm 5y ago
      Making up shit to post does not improve the world or your reputation.

thizzbuzz 5y ago

rgbrenner 5y ago

"The Fifty Year Rehabilitation of the Egg" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4632449/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4632449/