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Sugar. Is. Poison. The more and more we learn about it, the more and more disturbing it is how aggressively we were in denial during the war on fat. And we’ve
by thathndude 5y ago
Sugar. Is. Poison.
The more and more we learn about it, the more and more disturbing it is how aggressively we were in denial during the war on fat.
And we’ve done a complete 180 on health and wellness. Eggs are good now. Eat all you can.
Unfortunately, we didn’t change until we poisoned 75% of the adult population.
Get subsidies out of the food supply. Unless it’s broccoli. Then, that’s probably ok
- bigyellow 5y agoReductionist mentality to something as complex as nutrition could make anything you eat poison.
- Grakel 5y agoIt was all on purpose: sugar and corn syrup are cheap.
- jvalencia 5y agoThe gas from broccoli could increase greenhouse gases?
- bawolff 5y ago> Sugar. Is. Poison. I always feel this is a gross oversimplification. There is nothing that isn't poision in sufficient quantities.
- Waterluvian 5y agoSure but this statement is completely useless.
- bawolff 5y agoThat is my point. Saying sugar is poison is useless statement. Its not poison in the same way that arsnic is. Treating sugar the same way you would treat arsenic makes no sense. Arguably its closer to being poisinous the way broccoli is, but that also makes no sense. Its a gross oversimplification that leads to bad conclusions.
- echelon 5y agoExcept that US food culture emphasizes sugar as a keystone ingredient. It's so ingrained into the American palate at this point, it would present a competitive disadvantage to remove it from your food or restaurant. Sugar is put into everything. Cereal, sauces, drinks, bread, meat, salad dressing, mashed potatoes. If you try to eat without sugar for the first time in a while, you'll be in total shock by how bland things taste. And your body won't tolerate the change either. We're signing ourselves up for diabetes, inflammation, brain disease, physiological and mental dysfunction, and a multitude of other disease states by continuing the status quo. Sugar is poison by the sheer volume with which we consume it.
- gruez 5y ago>And your body won't tolerate the change either. Source? If I'm understanding correctly you're saying that people experience physical withdraw symptoms for sugar?
- carom 5y agoI experience physical withdrawal from sugar. There isn't really any medical literature to back it up. It gives me sinus headaches so I do not consume it at all. The multiple times I've cut it out (took a few tries) I would get quite sick for 12-24 hours. Strong sinus headache, cold sweat, shivering, vomiting, diarrhea.
- gruez 5y ago> Sugar. Is. Poison. Only in the sense that bad things happen to you if you consume too much. I don't like that label though, because if you follow that logic nearly everything is a poison (eg. water poisoning), which makes it useless as a label. A more accurate label would be something like "substance that we're likely to overconsume and cause harm, due to human psychology/physiology", but I guess that's not as attention grabbing as comparing it to rat poison or draino. See also, the noncentral fallacy: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/yCWPkLi8wJvewPbEp/the-noncentral-fallacy-the-worst-argument-in-the-world https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/yCWPkLi8wJvewPbEp/the-noncen...
- whoomp12342 5y agohave you ever seen a toddler on sugar? it transforms one into a werebear
- veonik 5y agoToddlers are just werebears. The crash might be real, but there has been research into the "rush" part and its been shown that kids really don't get a rush. It's probably just confirmation bias on the part of adults. https://www.yalescientific.org/2010/09/mythbusters-does-sugar-really-make-children-hyper/ https://www.yalescientific.org/2010/09/mythbusters-does-suga... Not saying we should feed our kids endless sugar, however.
- vidarh 5y agoI saw this with other parents when my son was small. So. Much. Confirmation. Bias. I absolutely can feel effects from large changed in sugar intake, but the tiny things parents thought were evidence of a sugar rush were ridiculous.
- nouveaux 5y agoIts not clear to me that the study disproves that kids do not get a rush from sugar: "Dr. Tamborlane, also from Yale, reported that children given sugar had higher levels of adrenaline." I'm not an expert in human biology but doesn't adrenaline increase activity?
- DavidPiper 5y agoGenuine side-question (that ages me a bit): Eggs were ever considered unhealthy?
- kurthr 5y agoOh yes, they had cholesterol (and they still do)... it's just that they CAN be a part of a healthy diet, while breakfast cereal arguably can't no matter how many vitamins you add to it. You'll still find plenty of egg white only things out there in the dairy aisle or at your local diner... since it was the dreaded yolk with all the fat (and vitamins and cholesterol) that was supposed to be bad.
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- jacobmischka 5y agoIt's less about the fat per se, egg whites are drastically lower in calories and still relatively tasty if prepared well.
- tayo42 5y agoan egg is already 70-90 calories how much lower do you need it to be? 3 egg meal at less then 300 calories its pretty good
- jacobmischka 5y agoWell, it's less about the total amount of calories as it is about the amount per volume of food. 300kcal of egg whites is just a lot more food in size, and some people (myself included) just enjoy eating larger quantities and are willing to sacrifice some quality in taste. Also, if you're paying attention to protein intake then 300kcal of egg whites is also a lot more protein than the equivalent amount of whole eggs. The fat isn't inherently bad, but there are tradeoffs that some people prefer.
- ncmncm 5y ago
- anduru_h 5y agoHonest question - what about if you drink a ton of water? Does that "dilute" the effect that consuming too much of one thing has? I've never actually looked into it myself but I've always held that belief, perhaps falsely.
- codr7 5y agoThat will unfortunately kill you pretty effectively, 6 liters or so in a short timespan is all it takes...
- tsol 5y agoMight slow digestion down a little bit, but probably not significantly. Fiber helps slow down sugar absorption, which is why fruit is okay for you. Ultimately most of what you put into your stomach absorbs into your blood stream, so eventually your pancreas will have to deal with all the sugar by releasing a lot of insulin
- gurumeditations 5y agoSugar, specifically the way we stuff all foods these days full of it, is the “root of all evil”. Healthcare costs, the obesity crisis (just because everyone is fat now doesn’t make it normal or healthy), lack of military readiness, sugar addiction, it’s all linked to sugar being extremely cheap and highly addictive which means every mass manufactured food is stuffed full of it. I absolutely believe that sugar is the cigarette of our time. It’s just a lot harder to point out the deleterious effects on society. With cigarettes you can point to lung cancer and that’s all you need. Sugar causes varying harms, of varying degrees, so you can’t easily point to something to scare people, especially when obesity is normalized. On a societal level however, the price is clear. Sugar must be regulated, taxed, and zero-calorie sweeteners encouraged as the default.
- zuj 5y agoJust to add to this, anything processed is generally not great for health. After going through a lot of gut issues and reading many articles and books here is what I understood.. Avoid things which... * contains more than 3 components which you can't understand. * your grandma doesn't recognise as food. * comes in a plastic cover and doesn't degrade for a long time. I know this pretty much eliminates the entire super market but if you go through what I have you will rethink everything you put in your mouth.
- xarope 5y agoIs sugar bad in high doses? Yes. Is anything bad in high doses? Oxygen - check. Water - check. Let's try to be more moderate, lest one day there is a ban on poor dihydrogen monoxide...
- Vrondi 5y agoIn the 1990s, fat. was. poison. The fat free craze then is what led to many more food items having added sugar then ever before. They took out the fat, and added more forms of sugar to more foods. Demonizing one food type completely just because they've been mis-used by industry is rarely healthy. Focusing on demonizing sugar is repeating the cultural mistakes of the past. Focusing on whole foods would be a better way forward.