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Exactly which part of this do you think should be illegal?

by creato 5y ago

ehnto 5y ago
It doesn't have to be illegal but I think some defensive regulation here is smart. Things people are concerned about may already be illegal. Imitation, identity theft, slander and so on. Think about the new layer it adds to domestic disputes and criminal investigations. Perhaps a solution is a sound fingerprint requirement for voice imitation software so that it's easily identifiable in court if it's an imitation voice. It's somewhat of a new frontier, imagine during a divorce proceeding your ex-partner fabricates voice recordings of you threatening the kids so you don't get custody, how do you protect yourself against that, how to you prove that's what happened? Soon enough it'll just be an app on their phone that they use to record your voice during a discussion, then later spits out a sound file of you saying whatever they want you to say. That's clearly a socially dangerous tool.
shanlalit 5y ago
Tomorrow a paid tool or a costly hidden company will allow anyone to get statement in your voice (based on sample). How you are going to proof, that it is not you? Fake calls to your relatives in your voice or even fake video with your face and voice asking for money! or illegal activities. Few years later a company will come and say we can detect if it's fake or not pay $10,000 for solution, or get ready to be in prison. Oops! legal system doesn't accept this as a proof, now what? Welcome to the prison. Both companies are making money, and you are paying by money and your life.
- asiachick 5y ago
  What's your suggested solution? I can see the government banning using voice as a password. I can't see it banning the tech. The criminals will use the tech regardless of if it's banned. Looks like we'll need person to person authentication for our relatives soon.
- creato 5y ago
  > How you are going to proof, that it is not you? If technology like this is plausible, then the recording shouldn't be considered a statement by me in the first place. People are just going to have to learn not to trust audio. People adapted to photoshop, they'll adapt to this.
  - ajuc 5y ago
    it's possible to forge paper signatures since forever yet it's still used
  - taneq 5y ago
    Yeah but history has shown that people do not, in fact, so that.

Exactly which part of this do you think should be illegal?

by creato 5y ago

Exactly which part of this do you think should be illegal?

It doesn't have to be illegal but I think some defensive regulation here is smart. Things people are concerned about may already be illegal. Imitation, identity theft, slander and so on. Think about the new layer it adds to domestic disputes and criminal investigations. Perhaps a solution is a sound fingerprint requirement for voice imitation software so that it's easily identifiable in court if it's an imitation voice. It's somewhat of a new frontier, imagine during a divorce proceeding your ex-partner fabricates voice recordings of you threatening the kids so you don't get custody, how do you protect yourself against that, how to you prove that's what happened? Soon enough it'll just be an app on their phone that they use to record your voice during a discussion, then later spits out a sound file of you saying whatever they want you to say. That's clearly a socially dangerous tool.

shanlalit 5y ago

Tomorrow a paid tool or a costly hidden company will allow anyone to get statement in your voice (based on sample). How you are going to proof, that it is not you? Fake calls to your relatives in your voice or even fake video with your face and voice asking for money! or illegal activities. Few years later a company will come and say we can detect if it's fake or not pay $10,000 for solution, or get ready to be in prison. Oops! legal system doesn't accept this as a proof, now what? Welcome to the prison. Both companies are making money, and you are paying by money and your life.

asiachick 5y ago
What's your suggested solution? I can see the government banning using voice as a password. I can't see it banning the tech. The criminals will use the tech regardless of if it's banned. Looks like we'll need person to person authentication for our relatives soon.
creato 5y ago
> How you are going to proof, that it is not you? If technology like this is plausible, then the recording shouldn't be considered a statement by me in the first place. People are just going to have to learn not to trust audio. People adapted to photoshop, they'll adapt to this.
- ajuc 5y ago
  it's possible to forge paper signatures since forever yet it's still used
- taneq 5y ago
  Yeah but history has shown that people do not, in fact, so that.