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> A few people do this, but since we don’t have basic income ... We can imagine a society where everyone is given an amount of money to produce whatever they l

by troupe 5y ago

> A few people do this, but since we don’t have basic income ... We can imagine a society where everyone is given an amount of money to produce whatever they like by taking money from people who are producing what others like. Instead we have a system where people are free to produce what they like, but the people who can do it full time are the ones what have shown they can produce what other's like. If a lack of basic income is why people are producing great works of art, then we should expect to see people on retirement to be the most prolific authors of great works.

wizzwizz4 5y ago
> are the ones what have shown they can produce what other's like. How do you show you can do this? • Have enough money to fund yourself making the art in the first place. • Actually be able to do it. • Have enough resources left over to market it. In an ideal world, you'd only need the middle one, but currently you need all three.
- troupe 5y ago
  I would argue that in no point in history has it been easier to make a living producing things that other's want to view than today. You can make a very high quality movie with an inexpensive computer or even a phone, youtube will host it for you for free, and, if people like it, they can watch it and share it with others. Youtube will even pay you ad revenues or let you sell your movie. If your movie is only good enough that it takes massive marketing to become popular, then that doesn't work, but then you are in the realm of producing what others are told to like rather than what they will like and share with their friends naturally.
dahart 5y ago
> If a lack of basic income is why people are producing great works of art, then we should expect to see people on retirement to be the most prolific authors of great works. Unfortunately getting old and retiring and having to make a living doing something else for 70 years first is a massive confounding factor for that hypothesis, otherwise I think it would probably be happening.

by troupe 5y ago

wizzwizz4 5y ago

> are the ones what have shown they can produce what other's like. How do you show you can do this? • Have enough money to fund yourself making the art in the first place. • Actually be able to do it. • Have enough resources left over to market it. In an ideal world, you'd only need the middle one, but currently you need all three.

troupe 5y ago
I would argue that in no point in history has it been easier to make a living producing things that other's want to view than today. You can make a very high quality movie with an inexpensive computer or even a phone, youtube will host it for you for free, and, if people like it, they can watch it and share it with others. Youtube will even pay you ad revenues or let you sell your movie. If your movie is only good enough that it takes massive marketing to become popular, then that doesn't work, but then you are in the realm of producing what others are told to like rather than what they will like and share with their friends naturally.

dahart 5y ago

> If a lack of basic income is why people are producing great works of art, then we should expect to see people on retirement to be the most prolific authors of great works. Unfortunately getting old and retiring and having to make a living doing something else for 70 years first is a massive confounding factor for that hypothesis, otherwise I think it would probably be happening.