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Just a heads up to employers, if you are hiring remote workers and those workers might live in the US state of Colorado, you are required to list a salary with

• version_five 5y ago
  • nwiswell 5y ago
    > adults talking about direct job opportunities they know about, it's not a job board Serious question: what's the difference? Looking through this thread, the positions being advertised are mostly posted by people who work at those companies. More to the point, would a judge see a distinction between this HN thread and another job board? Seems like GP is right. Many of these companies probably do employ at least one Colorado resident and therefore are subject to Colorado jurisdiction.
    • version_five 5y ago
      • nwiswell 5y ago
        Generally the solution when you're in violation of the law is to stop violating the law, not to stop doing things in general. Colorado's law is not unreasonable. There is even a forgiveness provision in the GP's link: > Employers that violate the job posting requirements may be required to pay a fine of between $500 and $10,000 for each violation. The Department will waive all fines if an employer brings its postings into compliance after the first violation.
        • version_five 5y ago
          I get it at this point that you're a troll, and I shouldn't keep discussing, but you'd really like to see each post in a forum thread comply with every jurisdictional employment law that might be applicable? Is that true for all internet content generally, and all jurisdictional laws? I don't buy it. Like I said, you see something good happening and want to destroy it. I honestly can't understand why? Why not let people have a forum discussion without trying to ruin it?
          • nwiswell 5y ago
            If you go to any major job board, you will notice that every single remote posting is in compliance with this law. This is in no way controversial and does not "destroy" anything except your odds of getting a nastygram from the Colorado department of labor
          • dang 5y ago
            Would you please stop posting flamewar comments and personal attacks? It's particularly important not to do that when your argument is a good one, because then you discredit the truth, which harms everyone. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
            • version_five 5y ago
              I agree that got out of hand, sorry.
• g_delgado14 5y ago
  Seems like the "Equal Pay for Equal Work Act" which you're referring to only applies to US companies. And if it doesn't, how does Colorado ever plan to enforce, say, a company out of Estonia, to follow this law?
  • nwiswell 5y ago
    Companies outside the US which employ US residents are subject to US labor laws (if they never employ any US resident, then of course it is not relevant). The question you are asking is substantially equivalent to asking why an Estonian company must pay US payroll taxes and how such laws could be enforced.
    • version_five 5y ago
• Osiris 5y ago
  An interesting note from that article: > NOTE: The Department has recently taken the position that a company that omits compensation by posting that a remote job is available for anyone in any location except for Coloradoans is not compliant with the Act. So, you can't even explicitly exclude Colorado when advertising remote positions. (I'm in Colorado and fully support this law and transparency in compensation)
  • nixgeek 5y ago
    I’m not really sure how enforceable that would be if the business has zero employees in Colorado and no offices there either? Edit: It looks like this only has an effect when a company has presence (1+ employee) in the state already. In a worst case scenario, to avoid needing to think about and comply with this law and those like it in states where you have extremely minimal presence, I do wonder if we’ll see companies with handfuls of employees run a RIF there to eliminate their state presence and simplify their operations. Meanwhile, apparently there are other hacks companies are trying like stating the pay range as starting at $0.01 - ha! https://www.9news.com/article/news/investigations/cdle-colorado-job-postings-salary-information/73-9f42260b-9ccd-4baa-a3e6-1cc9230f8649 https://www.9news.com/article/news/investigations/cdle-color...
    • NonEUCitizen 5y ago
      It says: 1. The Act applies to any entity employing at least one employee working in Colorado.
  • ddlsmurf 5y ago
    So basically, don't hire any Coloradans nor get offices there ? I mean "just don't say that's what you're doing or you're in violation of colorado law" is hardly intimidating for those of us outside Colorado. It will make Coloradans much less desirable for remote jobs though, even if you don't find out about it. Thanks for the warning though.
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• ElCapitanMarkla 5y ago
  Oh I wondered why I would often see a defined salary listed for employees based in Colorado.