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> including shooting out tires Thank you for posting the TL;DR @marktucker. It saves everyone watching a video that is no doubt full of pure invented FUD and

> including shooting out tires Thank you for posting the TL;DR @marktucker. It saves everyone watching a video that is no doubt full of pure invented FUD and BS. Why do I say that ? Because of the "shooting out tires" bit. 1. Its a dumb American thing, no way in hell it would be permitted in the UK .. actually no, to give the yanks their due, I don't event think they would start shooting at tyres randomly on a public street. ;-) 2. Ecuadorian Embassy is in Hans Place, Knightsbridge. Anyone who has ever lived or worked in London will very quickly tell you that (a) Shooting at tyres in that neck of the wood is likely to result in far too many casualties and collateral damage to very expensive assets (b) There is unlikely to be a need to do so because there is both heavy police presence in that neck of the woods AND a lot of vehicular traffic (i.e. no chance for a fast car getaway, you'll end up stuck in traffic sooner or later).

ncmncm 5y ago
You may read it yourself on the briefing sheet they got a picture of. "Permitted" by whom? Do you imagine that CIA or MI5 thugs dressed up in bobby outfits worry about whether what they do might upset you?
- vintermann 5y ago
  The MI5 have explicitly given themselves permission to do illegal things. Makes sense when you consider that a good number of the people who willingly join it, probably are idiots who have watched too many Bond movies. I suspect all secretive organizations, from mafias to lodges to intelligence services, get shaped by influx of pop culture ideas of what they do, more than they would like to admit. Though, it's actually a good sign that they moved to get it into a bill (the "Covert Human Intelligence Sources (Criminal Conduct) Bill") rather than merely having it as an informal policy. Shows they're at least slightly worried about having to answer for their crimes one day.
AnthonyMouse 5y ago
This comment reminds me of that scene in El Camino where Pinkman explains how he knows the shopkeeper didn't really dial 911.
blitzar 5y ago
> to give the yanks their due, I don't event think they would start shooting at tyres randomly on a public street They 100% would go for the fuel tank; although obviously the instructions would be to shoot the gas tank. Its that or go full Team America. Don't worry, everything is bon! We stopped the terrorists.

ncmncm 5y ago

You may read it yourself on the briefing sheet they got a picture of. "Permitted" by whom? Do you imagine that CIA or MI5 thugs dressed up in bobby outfits worry about whether what they do might upset you?

vintermann 5y ago
The MI5 have explicitly given themselves permission to do illegal things. Makes sense when you consider that a good number of the people who willingly join it, probably are idiots who have watched too many Bond movies. I suspect all secretive organizations, from mafias to lodges to intelligence services, get shaped by influx of pop culture ideas of what they do, more than they would like to admit. Though, it's actually a good sign that they moved to get it into a bill (the "Covert Human Intelligence Sources (Criminal Conduct) Bill") rather than merely having it as an informal policy. Shows they're at least slightly worried about having to answer for their crimes one day.

AnthonyMouse 5y ago

This comment reminds me of that scene in El Camino where Pinkman explains how he knows the shopkeeper didn't really dial 911.

blitzar 5y ago

> to give the yanks their due, I don't event think they would start shooting at tyres randomly on a public street They 100% would go for the fuel tank; although obviously the instructions would be to shoot the gas tank. Its that or go full Team America. Don't worry, everything is bon! We stopped the terrorists.