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Apologises for triggering you here. I’m not meaning to troll, or add nonsense. I agree that there is a lot more going on with cars, as traffic and road conditi

Apologises for triggering you here. I’m not meaning to troll, or add nonsense. I agree that there is a lot more going on with cars, as traffic and road conditions vary more than air traffic and sky conditions. But my response is the failures aren’t that bad in the car world. Autopilot (ie lane keep and cruise control) have been probably safer than human drivers. Navigate on autopilot is very stable, but limited to highway… that’s why I referred to the lower speed, because high speed is closer to solved. The hard part of full self driving, is city streets, which is typically lower speeds. The failure mode of FSD is typically for it to just stop… I have never seen a single failure where it full speeds into another object. This did seem to happen sometimes in autopilot in the past, but not FSD

lolc 5y ago
> I have never seen a single failure where it full speeds into another object. What do you make of this near-miss posted recently? Allegedly, FSD was on when the car veered into the lane of an oncoming car. https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/comments/re7vxr/fsd_beta_fail_reposting_video_that_was_taken_down/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/comments/re7vxr/fsd...
- onethought 5y ago
  Agree that isn’t good. And definitely looked like it would collide. I guess if you agree to sign up to train the NN you need to accept the fact it’s going to do this stuff. As an aside, it seems strange to me that the high beams switch Off as they approach the oncoming car. Seems the driver disabled them… auto disabled would have meant they detected the car, which then seems unlikely they’d move into it’s path. But very hard to judge off camera alone… they might not even be on FSD. Shrug.
  - dncornholio 5y ago
    Where do I sign up for not wanting oncoming Tesla's to take my lane? Where do the pedestrians sign up for not having a Tesla drive over their feet?

lolc 5y ago

> I have never seen a single failure where it full speeds into another object. What do you make of this near-miss posted recently? Allegedly, FSD was on when the car veered into the lane of an oncoming car. https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/comments/re7vxr/fsd_beta_fail_reposting_video_that_was_taken_down/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/comments/re7vxr/fsd...

onethought 5y ago
Agree that isn’t good. And definitely looked like it would collide. I guess if you agree to sign up to train the NN you need to accept the fact it’s going to do this stuff. As an aside, it seems strange to me that the high beams switch Off as they approach the oncoming car. Seems the driver disabled them… auto disabled would have meant they detected the car, which then seems unlikely they’d move into it’s path. But very hard to judge off camera alone… they might not even be on FSD. Shrug.
- dncornholio 5y ago
  Where do I sign up for not wanting oncoming Tesla's to take my lane? Where do the pedestrians sign up for not having a Tesla drive over their feet?