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Intellectual Dark Web - the folks like Joe Rogan and Brett Weinstein who recommend horse dewormer for Covid treatment :).
by tibbydudeza 5y ago
Intellectual Dark Web - the folks like Joe Rogan and Brett Weinstein who recommend horse dewormer for Covid treatment :).
- pitched 5y agohttps://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-than-you-wanted https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-t... No need to downplay it by calling it “horse dewormer” now that we know where the correlations come from. “human dewormer” might be more accurate!
- jakobnissen 5y agoIvermectin is not horse dewormer, characterizing it as such is just lazy propaganda. It's primarily human dewormer. The whole idea of it being a house dewormer came about because the medicine intended for human use sold out around the initial hype, and desperate people bought the doses intended for animals instead.
- tibbydudeza 5y agoSo horse paste then - and it is still idiotic to use it as a Covid treatment.
- cmallp 5y agoRogan had a prescription for the human version, please do your research.
- 8note 5y agoHe probably had worms
- tibbydudeza 5y agoWell I have done enough "research" to tell the difference between an intestinal worm and a virus.
- e9 5y agoMany medicines have multiple uses that are not at all related. For example, Botox is used for stretching old skin to look nice but also used to treat migraines. Ketamine is horse tranquilizer but is also used to treat depression, etc
- thedailymail 5y agoMinor nitpick: Botox doesn't stretch skin, it relaxes facial muscles that cause a "wrinkled" appearance.
- e9 5y agothanks for the correction
- ekianjo 5y agoIvermectin is not only used for deworming. Low information comment.
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- parasighted 5y ago(...much like your comment) It's an anti-parasitic medication. Doses much higher than the maximum approved or safely achievable for use in humans would be required for an antiviral effect. Research failed to confirm the utility of Ivermectin for treating COVID-19. [1] Much of the research indicating otherwise was fraudulent or misleading. [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8406455/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8406455/ https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58170809 https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58170809
- torstenvl 5y agoStatement #1: "Lol idiots this is horse dewormer!" Statement #2: "This suggested treatment does not have the desired effect in clinical trials. See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8406455/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8406455/" Can you agree that those are entirely different statements? And that one is trolling while the other is informative?
- yucky 5y agoI don't know much about ivermectin (could be useless, don't know or care), but your framing makes as much sense as saying people think injecting mold in their butt will cure syphilis.
- unethical_ban 5y agoIt's lazy, but from what I have heard from people I trust (which itself is lazy, since I haven't searched journal articles) is that there is absolutely no scientific evidence that Ivermectin is a useful therapeutic for covid infection. You are correct that the "horse dewormer" meme was due to desperate people buying industrial amounts, not human amounts, from vet supply shops. It's worth mocking because these people are desperately avoiding mainstream medical advice per se.
- iszomer 5y agoAnd to think a comedy show framed it better than their mainstream counterparts.. Here's Jimmy Dore's [1] segment referencing a WaPo article [2] and Dr. John Campbell's [3] analysis on why "Japan is doing better" because of this stupid "horse dewormer" narrative. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S5YG7X52PE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S5YG7X52PE [2] https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/22/japan-covid-omicron-falling-cases/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/22/japan-covid-... [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1GF0H9V_1g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1GF0H9V_1g
- 8note 5y agoThe best thing would be to just call it a dewormer
- weare138 5y agoIf you got it from your doctor it's for humans. If you're eating out of a tube that say it's for horses with a picture of a horse on it then you're eating horse dewormer paste. If you don't want people saying you're eating horse dewormer go to your damn doctor.
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- tibbydudeza 5y agoBob Lazar and flat earthers is harmless but people have lost their lives because of lies and falsehoods being punted by some in the IDW.
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- YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y agoLashing out on people that have a mental illness to make a point, yikes.
- peakaboo 5y agoYou believed it was a horse dewormer because the mass media said so? Please educate yourself about ivermectin.
- adamredwoods 5y agoOut of curiosity, I did a quick search and it is used in horses, but not exclusively. Here's a recommended deworming schedule from CSU: https://vetmedbiosci.colostate.edu/vth/services/equine-field-service/equine-recommended-deworming-schedule/ https://vetmedbiosci.colostate.edu/vth/services/equine-field...
- tibbydudeza 5y agoMy brother is a farmer and he uses it for his sheep , they also give it to birds to control mosquito's that spreads the West Nile virus and to humans infected with fly larva that causes river blindness.
- anamax 5y agoYou do know that pretty much every animal drug is also used on people, right?