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Malone's been bootstrapping this "cancelled scientist" grift in plain sight since his appearance on Weinstein's podcast. It's a formula you see over and over a
by Commodore63 5y ago
Malone's been bootstrapping this "cancelled scientist" grift in plain sight since his appearance on Weinstein's podcast.
It's a formula you see over and over again.
1) Say enough shit to get your hand slapped
2) Do the IDW podcast tour to whine about the "establishment" and plug your Patreon and/or supplements.
3) Get bankrolled by Thiel.
- hnburnsy 5y agoWhat is IDW?
- tibbydudeza 5y agoIntellectual Dark Web - the folks like Joe Rogan and Brett Weinstein who recommend horse dewormer for Covid treatment :).
- pitched 5y agohttps://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-than-you-wanted https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-t... No need to downplay it by calling it “horse dewormer” now that we know where the correlations come from. “human dewormer” might be more accurate!
- jakobnissen 5y agoIvermectin is not horse dewormer, characterizing it as such is just lazy propaganda. It's primarily human dewormer. The whole idea of it being a house dewormer came about because the medicine intended for human use sold out around the initial hype, and desperate people bought the doses intended for animals instead.
- tibbydudeza 5y agoSo horse paste then - and it is still idiotic to use it as a Covid treatment.
- cmallp 5y agoRogan had a prescription for the human version, please do your research.
- 8note 5y agoHe probably had worms
- tibbydudeza 5y agoWell I have done enough "research" to tell the difference between an intestinal worm and a virus.
- e9 5y agoMany medicines have multiple uses that are not at all related. For example, Botox is used for stretching old skin to look nice but also used to treat migraines. Ketamine is horse tranquilizer but is also used to treat depression, etc
- thedailymail 5y agoMinor nitpick: Botox doesn't stretch skin, it relaxes facial muscles that cause a "wrinkled" appearance.
- e9 5y agothanks for the correction
- ekianjo 5y agoIvermectin is not only used for deworming. Low information comment.
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- unethical_ban 5y agoIt's lazy, but from what I have heard from people I trust (which itself is lazy, since I haven't searched journal articles) is that there is absolutely no scientific evidence that Ivermectin is a useful therapeutic for covid infection. You are correct that the "horse dewormer" meme was due to desperate people buying industrial amounts, not human amounts, from vet supply shops. It's worth mocking because these people are desperately avoiding mainstream medical advice per se.
- iszomer 5y agoAnd to think a comedy show framed it better than their mainstream counterparts.. Here's Jimmy Dore's [1] segment referencing a WaPo article [2] and Dr. John Campbell's [3] analysis on why "Japan is doing better" because of this stupid "horse dewormer" narrative. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S5YG7X52PE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S5YG7X52PE [2] https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/22/japan-covid-omicron-falling-cases/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/12/22/japan-covid-... [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1GF0H9V_1g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1GF0H9V_1g
- 8note 5y agoThe best thing would be to just call it a dewormer
- weare138 5y agoIf you got it from your doctor it's for humans. If you're eating out of a tube that say it's for horses with a picture of a horse on it then you're eating horse dewormer paste. If you don't want people saying you're eating horse dewormer go to your damn doctor.
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- tibbydudeza 5y agoBob Lazar and flat earthers is harmless but people have lost their lives because of lies and falsehoods being punted by some in the IDW.
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- YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo 5y agoLashing out on people that have a mental illness to make a point, yikes.
- peakaboo 5y agoYou believed it was a horse dewormer because the mass media said so? Please educate yourself about ivermectin.
- adamredwoods 5y agoOut of curiosity, I did a quick search and it is used in horses, but not exclusively. Here's a recommended deworming schedule from CSU: https://vetmedbiosci.colostate.edu/vth/services/equine-field-service/equine-recommended-deworming-schedule/ https://vetmedbiosci.colostate.edu/vth/services/equine-field...
- tibbydudeza 5y agoMy brother is a farmer and he uses it for his sheep , they also give it to birds to control mosquito's that spreads the West Nile virus and to humans infected with fly larva that causes river blindness.
- anamax 5y agoYou do know that pretty much every animal drug is also used on people, right?
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- tibbydudeza 5y agoI think he is rather miffed that he never got the credit he felt he deserved for the initial work he did - he also lost out on money when the early patents was re-assigned to another company. His words - "They got rich on the products of my mind.” https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w
- Commodore63 5y agoThat's capitalism for ya! The folks at the top are the ones who enjoy the fruits of your labor.
- cmallp 5y agoWeinstein himself was visibly shaken when he was "canceled", i.e., nearly attacked by a mob of ideologically brainwashed students. But I suppose that was just a master plan to cash in on the IDW.
- 8note 5y agoI thought Weinstein was pretending to be crippled to try and get a reduced prison sentence after he was cancelled
- jzackpete 5y agoThey're talking about Bret Weinstein, not Harvey Weinstein
- thedailymail 5y agoToo many notable Weinsteins! I think the grandparent comment is actually referring to Bret's brother Eric, the parent is about Bret, and the commenter you're responding to may be confusing them with the unrelated Harvey.
- Commodore63 5y agoI've read some accounts from former students of Weinstein and Heying - they sounded like good, dedicated profs (Heying esp.) I don't think Weinstein's "exile" was done intentionally, but his arc did establish a career path with a huge audience and wealthy patronage.
- apostacy 5y ago> Malone's been bootstrapping this "cancelled scientist" grift in plain sight since his appearance on Weinstein's podcast. But he actually was censored. Just the fact that he is censored makes him worth amplifying. They have granted him minor martyrdom. I would not have bothered listening, but now I will, just to defy the censors. And if he truly had nothing worth hearing, then he should have been ignored like a creationist. Nobody censors creationists. You are blaming him for "provoking" his censorship. If the church systematically had an artist censored and marginalized for making blasphemous art, I imagine that you would not blame the artist for provoking the Catholic league or whoever. Even if this artist/scientist/journalist did specifically make something that they knew would piss off those in power, that does not excuse or justify their treatment. There have always been self appointed protectors of information, and it is our duty to stand up to them, because they are a bigger threat to our safety than anyone they would silence. Please don't be a toady for the billionaires who want to prevent us from listening to podcasts that they don't like.
- Commodore63 5y agoContext is everything. The life and death ramifications of misinformation on this specific issue make this more than just an abstract disagreement of principles.