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Comparing the number of available beds with the number of unsheltered homeless people does not disprove parent's argument that there is a bed for everyone who w

Comparing the number of available beds with the number of unsheltered homeless people does not disprove parent's argument that there is a bed for everyone who wants a bed. A better question would be -- what the average shelter utilization?

mullingitover 5y ago
> Comparing the number of available beds with the number of unsheltered homeless people does not disprove parent's argument that there is a bed for everyone who wants a bed. It does, because the claim was not that there's a bed for everyone who wants one. The claim was exactly this: > There are shelters for every homeless person already. The homeless prefer the street. Which is a plainly incorrect statement, if for no other reason than the fact that 'the homeless' aren't a monolithic group with the identical goals.
- colinmhayes 5y ago
  > 'the homeless' aren't a monolithic group with the identical goals. I didn't say that they were a monolithic group. I said the homeless prefer the street. Considering there is space for them in shelters this is obviously true. Obviously there are many reasons why they prefer the street, but they are monolithic in their choice to not utilize the shelters.
  - mullingitover 5y ago
    > I didn't say that they were a monolithic group. I said the homeless prefer the street. If you're not making any distinctions within the population you're just spouting meaningless statements. You can also say 'the homeless prefer permanent housing,' or 'the homeless have never used drugs in their life' and it's equally true, because it's true in some cases. > Obviously there are many reasons why they prefer the street, but they are monolithic in their choice to not utilize the shelters. Considering the fact that there are in fact homeless people in shelters, saying they're 'monolithic' in their choice not to utilize shelters is incorrect on its face.

mullingitover 5y ago

> Comparing the number of available beds with the number of unsheltered homeless people does not disprove parent's argument that there is a bed for everyone who wants a bed. It does, because the claim was not that there's a bed for everyone who wants one. The claim was exactly this: > There are shelters for every homeless person already. The homeless prefer the street. Which is a plainly incorrect statement, if for no other reason than the fact that 'the homeless' aren't a monolithic group with the identical goals.

colinmhayes 5y ago
> 'the homeless' aren't a monolithic group with the identical goals. I didn't say that they were a monolithic group. I said the homeless prefer the street. Considering there is space for them in shelters this is obviously true. Obviously there are many reasons why they prefer the street, but they are monolithic in their choice to not utilize the shelters.
- mullingitover 5y ago
  > I didn't say that they were a monolithic group. I said the homeless prefer the street. If you're not making any distinctions within the population you're just spouting meaningless statements. You can also say 'the homeless prefer permanent housing,' or 'the homeless have never used drugs in their life' and it's equally true, because it's true in some cases. > Obviously there are many reasons why they prefer the street, but they are monolithic in their choice to not utilize the shelters. Considering the fact that there are in fact homeless people in shelters, saying they're 'monolithic' in their choice not to utilize shelters is incorrect on its face.