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But this is highlighting that the problem actually lies potentially in the sources you're declaring as immutable--there is a bluray release that hews closer to

But this is highlighting that the problem actually lies potentially in the sources you're declaring as immutable--there is a bluray release that hews closer to green, and an UHD bluray release that hews closer to blue, which apparently is more in line with the theatrical release. Your disc is just another snapshot in time reflecting the decisions of whoever handled the master for the disc--not all that different than whoever made the choices for the streaming version.

jerf 5y ago
The point is that it is indeed a snapshot... nobody can come in later and change it. If I want the changed thing, I can go get it. It doesn't guarantee I get the best version of whatever, but at least what I have won't change out from underneath me.
- xeromal 5y ago
  Nothing changed in these versions though. If you have HBO, you've been getting the same version. The video changes based on the service you use
  - anjbe 5y ago
    > Nothing changed in these versions though. There’s no guarantee of that, and definitely no guarantee it won’t happen in the future. One example: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/16/arts/television/netflix-deleted-13-reasons-why-suicide-scene.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/16/arts/television/netflix-d... To say nothing of the far more common case of whole works simply disappearing as publishing/streaming rights shift around.
    - jerf 5y ago
      In practice, the way things disappear is almost a fatal flaw for me. I don't watch a lot of streaming video from these services, but I enjoy what I do quite a bit. I'll put a lot of stuff on my "future watchlist", whatever they call it, and get around to it several months later. Which means my experience with Netflix was quite often that I would see something I want to watch, but it would disappear before I watched it. That's like, maximally frustrating. And as Silicon Valley becomes ever more comfortable with censorship, as long as they can justify it to themselves that they're only doing it badthink badpeople so it's OK as long as it's in favor of them, it's likely that more and more things are going to get modified or disappeared. They're up to putting passive-aggressive warnings in front of some things now, it's only a matter of time and not much of it before they start outright editing old things wholesale. This is still theoretical... but only just. They've been creeping up on this for a while and they are very close to running out of small steps to take before they get to this point.
brnt 5y ago
At least we know which snapshot we're talking about and are free to buy (and sell) the snapshot of our choosing. Streaming is just another form of broadcast. What you see now, isn't what you're going to see tomorrow.

jerf 5y ago

The point is that it is indeed a snapshot... nobody can come in later and change it. If I want the changed thing, I can go get it. It doesn't guarantee I get the best version of whatever, but at least what I have won't change out from underneath me.

xeromal 5y ago
Nothing changed in these versions though. If you have HBO, you've been getting the same version. The video changes based on the service you use
- anjbe 5y ago
  > Nothing changed in these versions though. There’s no guarantee of that, and definitely no guarantee it won’t happen in the future. One example: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/16/arts/television/netflix-deleted-13-reasons-why-suicide-scene.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/16/arts/television/netflix-d... To say nothing of the far more common case of whole works simply disappearing as publishing/streaming rights shift around.
  - jerf 5y ago
    In practice, the way things disappear is almost a fatal flaw for me. I don't watch a lot of streaming video from these services, but I enjoy what I do quite a bit. I'll put a lot of stuff on my "future watchlist", whatever they call it, and get around to it several months later. Which means my experience with Netflix was quite often that I would see something I want to watch, but it would disappear before I watched it. That's like, maximally frustrating. And as Silicon Valley becomes ever more comfortable with censorship, as long as they can justify it to themselves that they're only doing it badthink badpeople so it's OK as long as it's in favor of them, it's likely that more and more things are going to get modified or disappeared. They're up to putting passive-aggressive warnings in front of some things now, it's only a matter of time and not much of it before they start outright editing old things wholesale. This is still theoretical... but only just. They've been creeping up on this for a while and they are very close to running out of small steps to take before they get to this point.

brnt 5y ago

At least we know which snapshot we're talking about and are free to buy (and sell) the snapshot of our choosing. Streaming is just another form of broadcast. What you see now, isn't what you're going to see tomorrow.