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Disney+ actually has both versions of the Simpsons. There's an option to use the original aspect ratio you can check (of course that's opt in - the default is t
by slickdork 5y ago
Disney+ actually has both versions of the Simpsons. There's an option to use the original aspect ratio you can check (of course that's opt in - the default is the wrong ratio).
Seinfeld on Netflix on the other hand only has the cropped aspect ratio (booooooooo).
- tomjakubowski 5y agoSeinfeld was actually filmed on 16:9 and then cropped to 4:3 for broadcasts in the 90s. So the 16:9 Seinfeld is showing you more, not less. The good seasons of the Simpsons are so full of sight gags. The crop (or worse, when the crop consciously pans and scans) totally spoils them.
- sorenjan 5y ago> Seinfeld was actually filmed on 16:9 and then cropped to 4:3 for broadcasts in the 90s. So the 16:9 Seinfeld is showing you more, not less. According to this tweet they cropped out the pothole from the episode The Pothole. https://twitter.com/Thatoneguy64/status/1443961536079450117 https://twitter.com/Thatoneguy64/status/1443961536079450117
- halpert 5y agoBut you see more of the car. How?
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- rscoots 5y agoEdit: never mind, there is a slight difference there. Twitter also annoyingly crops image previews. Car appears to be the same if you click.
- layer8 5y agoI don't know if this is the case for Seinfeld, but TV productions filmed in 16:9 but for 4:3 broadcast didn't always take care that the full 16:9 frame would have adequate content, i.e. no mike booms or non-stage items visible, and therefore later 16:9 versions had to be zoomed in by some factor; still wider than the 4:3, but reduced in the vertical.
- heywire 5y agoI want to say it was either 24 or Heroes that had some scenes where you could see things like this in the widescreen release
- lfowles 5y agoDefinitely remember this being the case for Buffy on DVD.
- layer8 5y agoFor Buffy that's only on the R2/R4 DVDs I believe, the R1 DVDs are luckily fully 4:3. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer_home_video_releases#Widescreen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Buffy_the_Vampire_Slay... Unfortunately the streaming HD "remaster" is fully 16:9 and badly adapted, not only regarding cropping, but also colors and editing (just google for "buffy hd").
- slickdork 5y agoInteresting - but, are you saying netflix is using those original 16:9 scans? From all the screenshots I can see it looks like they took a 4:3 source and cropped to 16:9. Makes me think as well that If netflix had rescanned all the film to preserve the original 16:9, I'm sure they would be have done it in 4K. edit: it is in 4k, I was wrong.
- sbierwagen 5y agoThat doesn't seem to be the case: https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/1/22704399/seinfeld-aspect-ratio-netflix-4k-widescreen-letterbox-streaming-hd https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/1/22704399/seinfeld-aspect-...
- m348e912 5y ago>>That doesn't seem to be the case Correct, Seinfeld is cropped to make way for the 16:9 aspect ratio. However it was one of the few sitcoms at the time shot with 35mm film (but with 4:3 aspect ratio.) The resolution was high enough that later, editors were able to crop to 16:9 and maintain acceptable picture quality. They had to make some interesting framing decisions along the way. This is how Seinfeld would look if it wasn't cropped. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC9LcyglcXE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC9LcyglcXE This video explains the cropping process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFIrsitJW5M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFIrsitJW5M
- tomjakubowski 5y agoThanks, I was misinformed and the truth is way more interesting.
- beached_whale 5y agoThanks! I did not notice that in the past