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I cannot speak about the alleged wokeness, as I don't consume enough CBC content to make an informed judgment. What I can say is that CBC is the only major Cana

I cannot speak about the alleged wokeness, as I don't consume enough CBC content to make an informed judgment. What I can say is that CBC is the only major Canadian media company that is not capital C Conservative, at least among English-language media. Toronto Star used to fit this description too, but they got sold to what I think is a private equity firm who has been selling off their assets, so I don't expect them to be around much longer. Toronto Star is/soon-to-be was leftist. CBC is supposed to be neutral. All other major media companies are Conservative. See party endorsements for federal elections for example. Note that all non-Conservative endorsements come from the late TorStar corporation. https://readpassage.com/election-endorsements/ https://readpassage.com/election-endorsements/ So maybe the issue is not that CBC is too Liberal, but that every other publication is Conservative, so even a neutral publication will look far left by comparison. Again, I don't consume enough CBC content to comment how their leanings are. I just know a bit about Canadian media atmosphere in general.

gruez 5y ago
>What I can say is that CBC is the only major Canadian media company that is not capital C Conservative, at least among English-language media. [...] >https://readpassage.com/election-endorsements/ https://readpassage.com/election-endorsements/ But the source you cited seems to only include newspapers? Media companies tend to pander to their readers, and newspapers attracts... a certain type of readers. It's not surprising that most newspapers are conservative.
- smnrchrds 5y ago
  These days their websites are much more prominent than their print editions, and it's what people read online and link to on Facebook and social media. They are not stuck in the past. The Globe and Mail is widely regarded as Canada's newspaper of record, and even they endorse Conservatives.
frabbit 5y ago
I generally do not read/watch/listen to the CBC. I got tired of their NPR-ish comofortable liberalism which always drifted into conservatism a long time ago. Sure, there were occasional nods to the idea that not all was happy in our settler colonial land, but in general it was smug "we're all nice" and "aren't Americans crazy?!". Our local outpost plays hideous CanCon music in the mornings and repeats the same low-information density press releases disguised as news. There is little that is combative or thought provoking and lot of self-congratulation. I have been especially un-impressed with their lack of willingness to address the abuse of power by the RCMP at the Fairy Creek protests including the detention of one of their own videographers; their supine acceptance of the insane tar sands projects; their lack of aggression in pursuing the Trudeau administrations failure to address the horrendous mistreatment of autochthonous people people and communities. These days I mostly read The Tyee¹ and listen to Canadaland² 1. https://thetyee.ca/ https://thetyee.ca/ 2. https://www.canadaland.com/ https://www.canadaland.com/ That said, the author of the original article lost me when she trotted out the silly line about transgender Filipinos.
finite_jest 5y ago
You are right that newspapers lean capital C Conservative [1] in Canada. It is mostly due to Postmedia. Ownership by Postmedia is quite conspicuous in the list. CBC is really woke though. You don't need to suffer them too much to notice that. Randomly turn on the radio while driving a few times, and you will see. [1]: Which in its current form looks like a bland, toothless, uninspiring, "big tent" party. Roughly speaking, they only seem to win if you use irrelevant metrics like popular vote (https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/erin-otoole-conservatives-popular-vote-canada-election-054033279.html https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/erin-otoole-conservatives-p...)
- smnrchrds 5y ago
  Now that TorStar is on its deathbed, without CBC, Canadian English-language media will be comprised of solely Postmedia. That's not a future I am looking forward to, but one that is quite likely the next time CPC gets elected. No party wins popular vote anymore (as in more than 50%). With FPTP, we are stuck with less-than ideal seats-to-votes correlation.
  - finite_jest 5y ago
    I think I broadly share your distaste for bias and corporate media in general. However, one would hope there could be better alternatives than woke to bland and indefinite conservatism. > No party wins popular vote anymore (as in more than 50%). With FPTP, we are stuck with less-than ideal seats-to-votes correlation. As a side-note, I recently learned that the more unambiguous terms for this are "plurality" (more than all others) and "majority" (more than half). I think "popular vote" is also often used as a synonym for plurality, but I am not completely sure. Sorry, I am ESL :-)

gruez 5y ago

>What I can say is that CBC is the only major Canadian media company that is not capital C Conservative, at least among English-language media. [...] >https://readpassage.com/election-endorsements/ https://readpassage.com/election-endorsements/ But the source you cited seems to only include newspapers? Media companies tend to pander to their readers, and newspapers attracts... a certain type of readers. It's not surprising that most newspapers are conservative.

smnrchrds 5y ago
These days their websites are much more prominent than their print editions, and it's what people read online and link to on Facebook and social media. They are not stuck in the past. The Globe and Mail is widely regarded as Canada's newspaper of record, and even they endorse Conservatives.

frabbit 5y ago

I generally do not read/watch/listen to the CBC. I got tired of their NPR-ish comofortable liberalism which always drifted into conservatism a long time ago. Sure, there were occasional nods to the idea that not all was happy in our settler colonial land, but in general it was smug "we're all nice" and "aren't Americans crazy?!". Our local outpost plays hideous CanCon music in the mornings and repeats the same low-information density press releases disguised as news. There is little that is combative or thought provoking and lot of self-congratulation. I have been especially un-impressed with their lack of willingness to address the abuse of power by the RCMP at the Fairy Creek protests including the detention of one of their own videographers; their supine acceptance of the insane tar sands projects; their lack of aggression in pursuing the Trudeau administrations failure to address the horrendous mistreatment of autochthonous people people and communities. These days I mostly read The Tyee¹ and listen to Canadaland² 1. https://thetyee.ca/ https://thetyee.ca/ 2. https://www.canadaland.com/ https://www.canadaland.com/ That said, the author of the original article lost me when she trotted out the silly line about transgender Filipinos.

finite_jest 5y ago

You are right that newspapers lean capital C Conservative [1] in Canada. It is mostly due to Postmedia. Ownership by Postmedia is quite conspicuous in the list. CBC is really woke though. You don't need to suffer them too much to notice that. Randomly turn on the radio while driving a few times, and you will see. [1]: Which in its current form looks like a bland, toothless, uninspiring, "big tent" party. Roughly speaking, they only seem to win if you use irrelevant metrics like popular vote (https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/erin-otoole-conservatives-popular-vote-canada-election-054033279.html https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/erin-otoole-conservatives-p...)

smnrchrds 5y ago
Now that TorStar is on its deathbed, without CBC, Canadian English-language media will be comprised of solely Postmedia. That's not a future I am looking forward to, but one that is quite likely the next time CPC gets elected. No party wins popular vote anymore (as in more than 50%). With FPTP, we are stuck with less-than ideal seats-to-votes correlation.
- finite_jest 5y ago
  I think I broadly share your distaste for bias and corporate media in general. However, one would hope there could be better alternatives than woke to bland and indefinite conservatism. > No party wins popular vote anymore (as in more than 50%). With FPTP, we are stuck with less-than ideal seats-to-votes correlation. As a side-note, I recently learned that the more unambiguous terms for this are "plurality" (more than all others) and "majority" (more than half). I think "popular vote" is also often used as a synonym for plurality, but I am not completely sure. Sorry, I am ESL :-)