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Just out of curiosity, would your bad chest pain get registered as some part of the data collected by the CDC?

jjeaff 5y ago
In the US, it would be required that the doctors report it to the VAERS database. There is no need to prove any causal relationship, since that is basically impossible anyway. It doesn't really make sense that Denmark would require you to prove it either, since the data gathering is really the only tool to get evidence of causation.
- merpnderp 5y ago
  "In the US, it would be required that the doctors report it to the VAERS database." From my personal experience and what I've heard online, that seems like wishful thinking. I know two people who had bad heart reactions to the vaccine whose doctors insisted it couldn't be from the vaccine and wouldn't speak of it being connected. And it seems like I've heard similar stories online dozens of times. My guess is the VAERS data dramatically undercounts incidents. The Pfizer whistleblower paper claimed that even in the early days of the vaccine, internal Pfizer incidents weren't even reported. And given how hostile the entire internet is to discussions of vaccine safety, the idea that people are extremely reluctant to report vaccine injuries seems believable.
  - xyzzy21 5y ago
    Legally it IS still required that they report. Doctors and hospitals are simply ignoring the law.
    - merpnderp 5y ago
      But this would explain why the US has lower rates of myocarditis vaccine injuries reported than the big Israel study or similar studies in Europe.
  - jjeaff 5y ago
    Anyone can report to VAERS. Evidenced by the reports if you care to peruse them. There are a lot of gems like, "he got the vax and then just died" and "my baby died a few weeks after I received the vaccine" and my favorite, "my cat died a few days after I got vaccinated". Considering the infinitely higher level of publicity that VAERS has received for this vaccine vs all previous vaccines, my guess is that it is over-reported.
- orangebeet 5y ago
  In Denmark you need to have objective evidence of inflammation to register it into the VAERS database.
  - decebalus1 5y ago
    VAERS is an American system. What's the Danish equivalent?
- tasogare 5y ago

In the US, it would be required that the doctors report it to the VAERS database. There is no need to prove any causal relationship, since that is basically impossible anyway. It doesn't really make sense that Denmark would require you to prove it either, since the data gathering is really the only tool to get evidence of causation.

merpnderp 5y ago
"In the US, it would be required that the doctors report it to the VAERS database." From my personal experience and what I've heard online, that seems like wishful thinking. I know two people who had bad heart reactions to the vaccine whose doctors insisted it couldn't be from the vaccine and wouldn't speak of it being connected. And it seems like I've heard similar stories online dozens of times. My guess is the VAERS data dramatically undercounts incidents. The Pfizer whistleblower paper claimed that even in the early days of the vaccine, internal Pfizer incidents weren't even reported. And given how hostile the entire internet is to discussions of vaccine safety, the idea that people are extremely reluctant to report vaccine injuries seems believable.
- xyzzy21 5y ago
  Legally it IS still required that they report. Doctors and hospitals are simply ignoring the law.
  - merpnderp 5y ago
    But this would explain why the US has lower rates of myocarditis vaccine injuries reported than the big Israel study or similar studies in Europe.
- jjeaff 5y ago
  Anyone can report to VAERS. Evidenced by the reports if you care to peruse them. There are a lot of gems like, "he got the vax and then just died" and "my baby died a few weeks after I received the vaccine" and my favorite, "my cat died a few days after I got vaccinated". Considering the infinitely higher level of publicity that VAERS has received for this vaccine vs all previous vaccines, my guess is that it is over-reported.
orangebeet 5y ago
In Denmark you need to have objective evidence of inflammation to register it into the VAERS database.
- decebalus1 5y ago
  VAERS is an American system. What's the Danish equivalent?
tasogare 5y ago