> I've heard from 3 different pilots from three different ME airlines Oh really????? I find that hard to believe. Anyway, I'll assume you aren't lying. If yo

> I've heard from 3 different pilots from three different ME airlines Oh really????? I find that hard to believe. Anyway, I'll assume you aren't lying. If you have conclusive evidence, why don't you do us all a favour and give it to the FAA and try to ensure those middle eastern airlines stay grounded or atleast out of American skies? (If you aren't from America, do the above with the aviation authority in your country, and maybe FAA as well anyway) If you're gonna say FAA is in the arabs' payroll and the whole system is rigged, then you're screwed regardless of whether the ME "local noobs" are bad. > that suggests it's not the individuals, but the airline and it's processes that are at fault No it does not necessarily. If this kind of incident regularly happens, then yes the entire airline might be flawed. But at this point there is no evidence to believe so. > the locals are untouchable, and get away with all sorts of bullshit First up, why don't you ask your ME pilot friends the ratio of local and expat pilots in those airlines? What makes you think the local pilots there are into "bullshit"? Those middle eastern airlines aren't any worse than any other major airline from anywhere else. If you can prove otherwise, contact FAA.