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No, Apple is at least partially successful because it’s a luxury brand. That’s not the same as more expensive=better. The Apple comparison is also dumb because

by emsy 5y ago

No, Apple is at least partially successful because it’s a luxury brand. That’s not the same as more expensive=better. The Apple comparison is also dumb because even if you think they’re overpriced, they aren’t priced arbitrarily high and there’s a tangible difference between an Apple product and competitors. Compare that to wine, coffee and audio equipment that fails to be differentiated in blind tests.

ForHackernews 5y ago
> there’s a tangible difference between an Apple product and competitors This seems pretty subjective. iPhone does exactly same things (takes pictures, makes calls, runs apps) as a $50 no-name device running Android. Similarly, a bottle of Two Buck Chuck gets you drunk the same as a $25k Romanée-Conti.
- hellisothers 5y ago
  Classic “only one metric matters”, by this standard you should only choose food based on how full does it make you which I guess is how we arrived at Soylent
- anonymousab 5y ago
  > iPhone does exactly same things (takes pictures, makes calls, runs apps) as a $50 no-name device running Android The photo quality on the iPhone will be of objectively higher quality due to the larger, superior lenses. There's simply more light information to work with.
- kristjansson 5y ago
  And Brainfuck does exactly the same thing as any other programming language.
- evilduck 5y ago
  If you want to get drunk and that's your only value you place on a drink why even choose wine to compare? You can buy bottom shelf vodka and get more ethanol for your buck than Two Buck Chuck. Hell, vodka is wastefully distilled multiple times, why not just chase bootleg moonshine producers for even less? It all gets you drunk the same so they must be equivalent products.
  - Zababa 5y ago
    Pedantic point since we're on HN and I spent some time learning about this. Moonshine is also distilled, so the best bang-for-your-buck in terms of ethanol quantity for price would be water, sugar and bread yeast, maybe adding tomato paste and lemon juice, commonly known as "Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe". If labor is considered free, a still shouldn't add much to the cost as long as you use it a lot.
    - evilduck 5y ago
      Vodka is often triple distilled and almost always diluted to 100 proof or less. Moonshine has no such standards. But yeah, homemade sugar solution and wine yeast would be your most efficient per dollar.
- mnd999 5y ago
  It also has a measurably faster CPU.
- f6v 5y ago
  > iPhone does exactly same things (takes pictures, makes calls, runs apps) as a $50 no-name device running Android Replace «iPhone» with “Samsung Galaxy” and your argument stays true. It’s just that manufacturers created a market for phones with giant screens, 3+ cameras and CPUs that can fly you to Oort cloud.
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by emsy 5y ago

ForHackernews 5y ago

> there’s a tangible difference between an Apple product and competitors This seems pretty subjective. iPhone does exactly same things (takes pictures, makes calls, runs apps) as a $50 no-name device running Android. Similarly, a bottle of Two Buck Chuck gets you drunk the same as a $25k Romanée-Conti.

hellisothers 5y ago
Classic “only one metric matters”, by this standard you should only choose food based on how full does it make you which I guess is how we arrived at Soylent
anonymousab 5y ago
> iPhone does exactly same things (takes pictures, makes calls, runs apps) as a $50 no-name device running Android The photo quality on the iPhone will be of objectively higher quality due to the larger, superior lenses. There's simply more light information to work with.
kristjansson 5y ago
And Brainfuck does exactly the same thing as any other programming language.
evilduck 5y ago
If you want to get drunk and that's your only value you place on a drink why even choose wine to compare? You can buy bottom shelf vodka and get more ethanol for your buck than Two Buck Chuck. Hell, vodka is wastefully distilled multiple times, why not just chase bootleg moonshine producers for even less? It all gets you drunk the same so they must be equivalent products.
- Zababa 5y ago
  Pedantic point since we're on HN and I spent some time learning about this. Moonshine is also distilled, so the best bang-for-your-buck in terms of ethanol quantity for price would be water, sugar and bread yeast, maybe adding tomato paste and lemon juice, commonly known as "Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe". If labor is considered free, a still shouldn't add much to the cost as long as you use it a lot.
  - evilduck 5y ago
    Vodka is often triple distilled and almost always diluted to 100 proof or less. Moonshine has no such standards. But yeah, homemade sugar solution and wine yeast would be your most efficient per dollar.
mnd999 5y ago
It also has a measurably faster CPU.
f6v 5y ago
> iPhone does exactly same things (takes pictures, makes calls, runs apps) as a $50 no-name device running Android Replace «iPhone» with “Samsung Galaxy” and your argument stays true. It’s just that manufacturers created a market for phones with giant screens, 3+ cameras and CPUs that can fly you to Oort cloud.

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