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Coffee is still there: The Weber HG-2 - The $1,650 Hand Grinder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL65i1XhVec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL65i1XhVec https:

by adolph 5y ago

Coffee is still there: The Weber HG-2 - The $1,650 Hand Grinder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL65i1XhVec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL65i1XhVec https://weberworkshops.com/products/hg-2 https://weberworkshops.com/products/hg-2

durnygbur 5y ago
hey, juicero at least was electric
- spookthesunset 5y ago
  > hey, juicero at least was electric But could be bested by simply squeezing the bag with your dirty grubby hands. Juicero is truly one of my favorite companies ever. The whole thing was a massive pile of extravagant hardware whose only reason for existence was to tell you "no, you cannot squeeze this particular bag of juice". It is the quintessential silicon valley echo chamber product. The fact that its founder went on to hawk "raw water" coming from spigots drilled into the hillsides along state highways only makes the story that much better.
space_ghost 5y ago
My wife bought me a $300 coffee grinder for Christmas. As a coffee ...enthusiast?... I'm quite fond of it. Perfectly consistent grid, very quiet electric operation, small footprint. I could argue that $300 was too much for it, but I'm willing to pay a premium for good product. $1,650 would be utterly insane.
- kejaed 5y ago
  So which one was it? :)
  - ezarowny 5y ago
    Probably the Fellow Ode
  - space_ghost 5y ago
    It's the Fellow Ode, as ezarowny correctly guessed. :)
- anschwa 5y ago
  I recently picked up the Fellow Ode for myself. I'm very happy with it so far and it's working exactly as advertised. Quiet, consistent, and very fast.
shantara 5y ago
I don’t think it’s a good analogy. With the coffee grinders you can have objective physical measurements for the coffee particle size distribution after the grinding process. Sure, the taste improvement would hit diminishing returns as the grinder price increases, but it would still exist. You as a buyer have to decide for yourself at which point the price stops making sense based on your budget. The audiophile hardware on the other hand is being sold based on the promises that defy an objective physical reality.
klodolph 5y ago
At least with coffee grinders you can measure the distribution of particle sizes to see that cheaper grinders are producing something quantitatively different as output, and use blind tests to see if you care. $1650 might still be a bit much, but the way you grind coffee does have a surprising impact on how it tastes. I’m not a coffee “enthusiast” but we have a grinder at home, and I’m definitely not getting the same coffee as I did in the office when I used their grinders.
jrockway 5y ago
Grinding coffee is hard. It's very easy to get particles that are too fine, overextract, and ruin the taste. So some engineering is required to get a good result. For these limited-run products, you're paying for the product development to a greater extent than you would for a product that sells in the millions. Software is very similar, someone could use Wordpress off the shelf, but they have a bunch of ideas for how their thing should be different, and so pay artisans $300 an hour to make their very own custom blog. The $1700 coffee grinder is the same effect at play.

by adolph 5y ago

durnygbur 5y ago

hey, juicero at least was electric

spookthesunset 5y ago
> hey, juicero at least was electric But could be bested by simply squeezing the bag with your dirty grubby hands. Juicero is truly one of my favorite companies ever. The whole thing was a massive pile of extravagant hardware whose only reason for existence was to tell you "no, you cannot squeeze this particular bag of juice". It is the quintessential silicon valley echo chamber product. The fact that its founder went on to hawk "raw water" coming from spigots drilled into the hillsides along state highways only makes the story that much better.

space_ghost 5y ago

My wife bought me a $300 coffee grinder for Christmas. As a coffee ...enthusiast?... I'm quite fond of it. Perfectly consistent grid, very quiet electric operation, small footprint. I could argue that $300 was too much for it, but I'm willing to pay a premium for good product. $1,650 would be utterly insane.

kejaed 5y ago
So which one was it? :)
- ezarowny 5y ago
  Probably the Fellow Ode
- space_ghost 5y ago
  It's the Fellow Ode, as ezarowny correctly guessed. :)
anschwa 5y ago
I recently picked up the Fellow Ode for myself. I'm very happy with it so far and it's working exactly as advertised. Quiet, consistent, and very fast.

shantara 5y ago

I don’t think it’s a good analogy. With the coffee grinders you can have objective physical measurements for the coffee particle size distribution after the grinding process. Sure, the taste improvement would hit diminishing returns as the grinder price increases, but it would still exist. You as a buyer have to decide for yourself at which point the price stops making sense based on your budget. The audiophile hardware on the other hand is being sold based on the promises that defy an objective physical reality.

klodolph 5y ago

At least with coffee grinders you can measure the distribution of particle sizes to see that cheaper grinders are producing something quantitatively different as output, and use blind tests to see if you care. $1650 might still be a bit much, but the way you grind coffee does have a surprising impact on how it tastes. I’m not a coffee “enthusiast” but we have a grinder at home, and I’m definitely not getting the same coffee as I did in the office when I used their grinders.

jrockway 5y ago

Grinding coffee is hard. It's very easy to get particles that are too fine, overextract, and ruin the taste. So some engineering is required to get a good result. For these limited-run products, you're paying for the product development to a greater extent than you would for a product that sells in the millions. Software is very similar, someone could use Wordpress off the shelf, but they have a bunch of ideas for how their thing should be different, and so pay artisans $300 an hour to make their very own custom blog. The $1700 coffee grinder is the same effect at play.