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Then you solve the problem in the baltics, not use it as excuse to turn your cars into "iphones"
by ugjka 5y ago
Then you solve the problem in the baltics, not use it as excuse to turn your cars into "iphones"
- tonyedgecombe 5y agoWhat are you proposing, that Sweden invades in order to stop car part theft?
- ugjka 5y agoYou know they are in the EU? Surely there are political tools to solve why there is a demand for stolen car parts in the Baltics
- the_mitsuhiko 5y agoJust look at how many tailgates and catalysts are stolen from trucks in the US. That problem is not solvable by more law enforcement.
- kalnins 5y agoThere isn't a demand for stolen car parts. There is a demand for cheeper/used car parts. This is in part due to lower salaries combined with people wanting to buy "cool" cars that are way over their budget hence they aren't able to afford new car parts for them.
- ugjka 5y agoAnd the only solution is lock our cars down and have no right to repair? And there is no question why something like this is happening within the EU? The union which is supposed to solve inequalities like this within its borders?
- mantas 5y agoLithuanian here. It’s not inequality when instead of a cheap hatchback you NEED to buy BMW 5-Series or Porsche Macan. But you import a damaged one from US. And then you need a bunch of „used“ parts to repair it.
- lillecarl 5y agoI mean it is inequality since the people they steal parts from can afford them, but it's not the kind of inequality we'd shed tears over.
- mantas 5y agoOr different priorities. Why pick between a nice house and Porsche if you can repair a crashed Porsche with stolen parts and build a house paying workers under table and skipping few regulations here and there.
- lillecarl 5y agoTrue Robin Hood, steal from the rich and give to the poor. Too bad it destroys so much capital every time.
- lillecarl 5y agoNot our jurisdiction, and what could car manufacturers do?
- ugjka 5y agoAddress the problem at the EU level because both Sweden and the Baltics are in it. This what the EU is for. But obviously it is much convenient to solve this the "Apple" way and claim that there was no other way...
- mantas 5y agoReintroducing border control would be a good 1st step. But gods forbid movement of „goods“ is endangered :)
- lillecarl 5y agoI know of no state that controls their outbound goods, so it'd be on the countries benefiting from this to get more strict, not gonna happen.
- mantas 5y agoHere in Lithuania we’re still checking cars leaving to Belarus to make sure they ain’t stolen. Random car papers checks on Poland/Lithuania border is still a thing too. Both to make sure Porsche stolen in Berlin last night don’t end up in Moscow 24 hours later. Unfortunately it’s hard to check every boot for stolen headlights and steering wheels without border control
- rasz 5y agoYou havent seen Border Control: Europe by Discovery network. Border Control: Spain in particular often shows them stopping whole lorries loaded to the gills with stolen chopped up cars trying to cross to Morocco.
- lillecarl 5y ago
- natch 5y agoYou really think that is a realistic goal, for the car companies to solve crime in other countries? Just as Apple can’t prevent abusive people from having the desire to track, stalk, and creep on their own family members, I don’t think you have a practical outlook or plan here. The manufacturers do what they can, and they deserve all our respect for that, not derision.
- ugjka 5y agoYet these big corporations spend billions of dollars lobbying the governments to their advantage every year. But when there is a practical problem, people like you come in here and throw their hands up "There is nothing we can do, but to lock our cars down"