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This is sophisticated part of Neo-colonialism and is not just restricted to Africa but to many other former colonies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0QyfrFqH

This is sophisticated part of Neo-colonialism and is not just restricted to Africa but to many other former colonies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0QyfrFqHA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0QyfrFqHA

kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
That's bullshit - everybody can read and write what they like. Nobody is forced to read a "neo-colonialist" book, and that is the difference to colonialism, which was forced upon people. If people are unhappy with existing books, they should simply create better books. And even if they are cliche, I suspect the issues mentioned in the article also do exists. Kids with genital mutilation, starving people, elephants being hunted to extinction and so on, they also exist in Africa. So everybody should also be allowed to write what they want. Of course you are also allowed to call it "neo-colonialism". Whatever.
- Ostrogodsky 5y ago
  > If people are unhappy with existing books, they should simply create better books. > If you dont like Google you should create your own Google. > If you dont like Peppa the Pig, tough luck, create your own.
  - Chris2048 5y ago
    When there is a platform, or critical infra as an obstruction then this is unreasonable. Arguable a DIY search engine is impossible on the scale of google because, aside from CPU power and storage, goog gets privileged indexing access. Everything else seems reasonable to DIY.
  - kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
    Who else should do it for you? It seems strange that of all the people creating books, none seem to create them to the satisfaction of activists?
    - Ostrogodsky 5y ago
      Because this a very naive (intended or not) view of the book publishing industry. Yes! everybody can write a book, at least in theory, but that is just 5% of the task. How about distribution, editing, advertising, shelf space in the bookstores, reviews, etc. A book who cannot reach potential readers may as well not exist.
      - kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
        And somehow only the bad writers get through with that, because everybody conspires against the good writers? Give me a break. It's also not even true anymore. Most of the things you listed you can get for free or almost nothing these days. In threads like this, you should then also be able to point out the really good books that failed because they couldn't find a publisher? Where are they?
- naruvimama 5y ago
  Your argument sounds like "if the men harass women why can not the women harass the men." To be fair women do harass men, only because the law is written in favour of women. We are talking about power assymetry and continuing hold on institutions like universities, media and bureaucracy. I am not finger pointing but people should be aware that these are just a continuing colonial mindset. Unlike the Nazi party which was disbanded at the end of ww2, a lot of colonialists and colonial institutions like the church got rewarded with vast deposits and land holdings.
  - kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
    Everybody can write a book, so there is no power asymmetry in that regard. There are powerful media outlets with agendas, but nobody is forced to watch their stuff, either. And as for your harassment example, the analogy is more like "men are being harassed because all books are only about men harassing women". The complaint is "Africa is being harassed because all books are only about things that are bad in Africa". The issues exist in Africa, so it should be possible to write about them.
    - naruvimama 5y ago
      I have written in favour of the post. I have written in favour of the people accused in the post, because it is the ecosystem and not their personal character. My post being downvoted proves precisely the point, people get triggered by the mention of neo-colonialism. People on both sides both the colonised and colonisers are programmed to protect the colonisers by all means. People go to Africa to see wildlife is because they have hunted down every bear, bison and wolf in their own homeland. So you can be the wolf preaching vegetarianism to the sheep.
      - kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
        People get triggered by unsubstantiated bullshit claims. To frame the modern world in terms of "colonizers" is misleading bullshit. As for wildlife, what do you want, the right to drive your wildlife to extinction, too? Really? And you would prefer if no tourists come to Africa? Are you sure those are good ideas? Who is forcing you to tolerate tourists to see African wildlife? Will the "colonizers" come with tanks and airplanes to force the "colonized" to open up their parks for tourists, if people in Africa should decide to shut them down? In reality, with the lost income from tourism, people would probably resort to eating the wildlife until it is gone, like in other parts of the world. And then you'd be left with nothing.

kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago

That's bullshit - everybody can read and write what they like. Nobody is forced to read a "neo-colonialist" book, and that is the difference to colonialism, which was forced upon people. If people are unhappy with existing books, they should simply create better books. And even if they are cliche, I suspect the issues mentioned in the article also do exists. Kids with genital mutilation, starving people, elephants being hunted to extinction and so on, they also exist in Africa. So everybody should also be allowed to write what they want. Of course you are also allowed to call it "neo-colonialism". Whatever.

Ostrogodsky 5y ago
> If people are unhappy with existing books, they should simply create better books. > If you dont like Google you should create your own Google. > If you dont like Peppa the Pig, tough luck, create your own.
- Chris2048 5y ago
  When there is a platform, or critical infra as an obstruction then this is unreasonable. Arguable a DIY search engine is impossible on the scale of google because, aside from CPU power and storage, goog gets privileged indexing access. Everything else seems reasonable to DIY.
- kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
  Who else should do it for you? It seems strange that of all the people creating books, none seem to create them to the satisfaction of activists?
  - Ostrogodsky 5y ago
    Because this a very naive (intended or not) view of the book publishing industry. Yes! everybody can write a book, at least in theory, but that is just 5% of the task. How about distribution, editing, advertising, shelf space in the bookstores, reviews, etc. A book who cannot reach potential readers may as well not exist.
    - kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
      And somehow only the bad writers get through with that, because everybody conspires against the good writers? Give me a break. It's also not even true anymore. Most of the things you listed you can get for free or almost nothing these days. In threads like this, you should then also be able to point out the really good books that failed because they couldn't find a publisher? Where are they?
naruvimama 5y ago
Your argument sounds like "if the men harass women why can not the women harass the men." To be fair women do harass men, only because the law is written in favour of women. We are talking about power assymetry and continuing hold on institutions like universities, media and bureaucracy. I am not finger pointing but people should be aware that these are just a continuing colonial mindset. Unlike the Nazi party which was disbanded at the end of ww2, a lot of colonialists and colonial institutions like the church got rewarded with vast deposits and land holdings.
- kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
  Everybody can write a book, so there is no power asymmetry in that regard. There are powerful media outlets with agendas, but nobody is forced to watch their stuff, either. And as for your harassment example, the analogy is more like "men are being harassed because all books are only about men harassing women". The complaint is "Africa is being harassed because all books are only about things that are bad in Africa". The issues exist in Africa, so it should be possible to write about them.
  - naruvimama 5y ago
    I have written in favour of the post. I have written in favour of the people accused in the post, because it is the ecosystem and not their personal character. My post being downvoted proves precisely the point, people get triggered by the mention of neo-colonialism. People on both sides both the colonised and colonisers are programmed to protect the colonisers by all means. People go to Africa to see wildlife is because they have hunted down every bear, bison and wolf in their own homeland. So you can be the wolf preaching vegetarianism to the sheep.
    - kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
      People get triggered by unsubstantiated bullshit claims. To frame the modern world in terms of "colonizers" is misleading bullshit. As for wildlife, what do you want, the right to drive your wildlife to extinction, too? Really? And you would prefer if no tourists come to Africa? Are you sure those are good ideas? Who is forcing you to tolerate tourists to see African wildlife? Will the "colonizers" come with tanks and airplanes to force the "colonized" to open up their parks for tourists, if people in Africa should decide to shut them down? In reality, with the lost income from tourism, people would probably resort to eating the wildlife until it is gone, like in other parts of the world. And then you'd be left with nothing.