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I agree with most everything you have said but wonder if it is just the internet or everywhere these days. I recently went through a McDonalds drive thru for t

I agree with most everything you have said but wonder if it is just the internet or everywhere these days. I recently went through a McDonalds drive thru for the first time in a very long time and felt a longing for the old menu boards that had items and prices clearly listed instead of these TV screens with all the items and prices scattered about like a teenage girls dream collage. I walked into a new BestBuy store picked up an item and could not find where to pay, apparently checkouts and queues for customers no longer make sense to their business model. I had three people walk past me before one finally asked if I needed help, I said "yes I would like to buy this" they told me they were going on break but directed me over to what looked like a 1980s nightclub coat check counter, where I waited another 10 minutes before leaving the item on the counter and walking out. The busses no longer accept cash in my city, you need to buy a prepaid card from a transit hub or from one of their partner retailers. So I need to get a ride to the store to get a bus pass?!? Everyone knows about self checkouts at grocery stores but now with online shopping services, it is like running through a gauntlet with gig workers blasting their way up and down the isles with no patients for us analog shoppers that don't know exactly where our items are located on the shelves. At the risk of sounding even more like a crotchety old man, people in public these days spend most of their time with their heads down looking at their phones. I took a couple friends out for lunch and was unable to have a meaningful conversation as they felt whatever was on their phones was more interesting than conversing with the sucker buying them lunch. There was a movie where a guy got out of prison after a lengthy sentence and his words seem to ring more true to me each and every day: "The world got itself in a damn hurry and it seems there is no place now for a feeble old man like me" *Regarding Your comment about 2FA I recently purchased a hard to find item from a website that only accepted ShopPay, they required 2FA through my phone which was fine but now every time I load a checkout page that does accept other methods, ShopPay hammers out another text message and has managed to become my default method of payment, it now takes me extra effort to change my payment method back to what I want.

nielsole 5y ago
Why is there a Google captcha in increasingly more checkout pages? This is the _only_ place a shop makes money.
- ratww 5y ago
  Mostly because of credit card fraud. Credit card numbers are constantly being leaked like crazy, and criminals have a hard time testing them by hand. So they rely on automating fake purchases on small shops so they can verify the number is correct. Another common thing is criminals selling products via non-legitimate shops for very little to "launder" those card numbers. After a customer pays, they buy the proper product on a proper shop with another stolen credit card number. Any investigation takes long enough for those people to just disappear and get away with it. We gotta fix credit cards as much as we need to fix the web.
tester34 5y ago
>The busses no longer accept cash in my city, you need to buy a prepaid card from a transit hub or from one of their partner retailers. So I need to get a ride to the store to get a bus pass?!? Damn, I hate this too
- seb1204 5y ago
  For some time this was the case in Sydney. Now you can tap on and off with any credit/debit card. Very convenient. Maybe worthwhile checking with you transport provider
jenscow 5y ago
> was unable to have a meaningful conversation as they felt whatever was on their phones was more interesting I hate that. If you're expecting something important - fine, take a quick glance to check, if it vibrates. But don't start scrolling while I'm trying to have a conversation with you. Put it down for 20 minutes, you'll be ok - it will still be on there. > The world got itself in a damn hurry and it seems there is no place now for a feeble old man like me The Shawshank Redemption
- lucumo 5y ago
  Meh. Whenever I see such things, it's usually because their interlocutor is boring. People aren't interesting just because they are people. In fact, most people are boring as hell. There is such a thing as manners, of course. But that's a two-way street. The other party also has to make an effort to not be boring, and that effort is rarely made either.
  - sigmaprimus 5y ago
    >>> The other party also has to make an effort not to be boring, and that effort is rarely made either. Would you please elaborate what you mean by this? I am familiar with how conversations work or at least how they used to... This looking at your phone and tuning out of a conversation seems to be somethin new and lacking as you said, manners.
    - lucumo 5y ago
      It's just that demanding someone's attention without expending the effort to be interesting to them is quite rude as well. If someone's constantly on their phone while you're speaking to them, your conversation is clearly not very interesting to them so you should do better. I find demanding someone's attention more rude than not giving attention that's requested. Someone's attention is theirs to give, not something for others to demand. As for how conversations used to work... When people were boring or uninteresting people would zone out and just uh-hu away. Just smile and nod. It may give the other the illusion that they're not being ignored, but they are.
zkldi 5y ago
> There was a movie where a guy got out of prison after a lengthy sentence and his words seem to ring more true to me each and every day: "The world got itself in a damn hurry and it seems there is no place now for a feeble old man like me" Shawshank?
- sigmaprimus 5y ago
  Yeah I think that might be the one, it has been a while since I watched it.
  - tome 5y ago
    Yup: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111161/quotes/qt0470737 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111161/quotes/qt0470737

nielsole 5y ago

Why is there a Google captcha in increasingly more checkout pages? This is the _only_ place a shop makes money.

ratww 5y ago
Mostly because of credit card fraud. Credit card numbers are constantly being leaked like crazy, and criminals have a hard time testing them by hand. So they rely on automating fake purchases on small shops so they can verify the number is correct. Another common thing is criminals selling products via non-legitimate shops for very little to "launder" those card numbers. After a customer pays, they buy the proper product on a proper shop with another stolen credit card number. Any investigation takes long enough for those people to just disappear and get away with it. We gotta fix credit cards as much as we need to fix the web.

tester34 5y ago

>The busses no longer accept cash in my city, you need to buy a prepaid card from a transit hub or from one of their partner retailers. So I need to get a ride to the store to get a bus pass?!? Damn, I hate this too

seb1204 5y ago
For some time this was the case in Sydney. Now you can tap on and off with any credit/debit card. Very convenient. Maybe worthwhile checking with you transport provider

jenscow 5y ago

> was unable to have a meaningful conversation as they felt whatever was on their phones was more interesting I hate that. If you're expecting something important - fine, take a quick glance to check, if it vibrates. But don't start scrolling while I'm trying to have a conversation with you. Put it down for 20 minutes, you'll be ok - it will still be on there. > The world got itself in a damn hurry and it seems there is no place now for a feeble old man like me The Shawshank Redemption

lucumo 5y ago
Meh. Whenever I see such things, it's usually because their interlocutor is boring. People aren't interesting just because they are people. In fact, most people are boring as hell. There is such a thing as manners, of course. But that's a two-way street. The other party also has to make an effort to not be boring, and that effort is rarely made either.
- sigmaprimus 5y ago
  >>> The other party also has to make an effort not to be boring, and that effort is rarely made either. Would you please elaborate what you mean by this? I am familiar with how conversations work or at least how they used to... This looking at your phone and tuning out of a conversation seems to be somethin new and lacking as you said, manners.
  - lucumo 5y ago
    It's just that demanding someone's attention without expending the effort to be interesting to them is quite rude as well. If someone's constantly on their phone while you're speaking to them, your conversation is clearly not very interesting to them so you should do better. I find demanding someone's attention more rude than not giving attention that's requested. Someone's attention is theirs to give, not something for others to demand. As for how conversations used to work... When people were boring or uninteresting people would zone out and just uh-hu away. Just smile and nod. It may give the other the illusion that they're not being ignored, but they are.

zkldi 5y ago

> There was a movie where a guy got out of prison after a lengthy sentence and his words seem to ring more true to me each and every day: "The world got itself in a damn hurry and it seems there is no place now for a feeble old man like me" Shawshank?

sigmaprimus 5y ago
Yeah I think that might be the one, it has been a while since I watched it.
- tome 5y ago
  Yup: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111161/quotes/qt0470737 https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111161/quotes/qt0470737