What I mean about macros is that there just aren't a lot of problems that are really well suited to solution via meta-programming. People should be free to prog

What I mean about macros is that there just aren't a lot of problems that are really well suited to solution via meta-programming. People should be free to program however they want, but if we're evaluating the power of a language I think its fair to talk about the frequency and type of problems you might need to solve. I think you're right about CL and CLojure, though. While I really prefer Scheme, its not really appropriate for solving a large set of practical problems.